the jets offense without brad?

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  1. tank75

    tank75 Well-Known Member

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    so putting aside the fact that brad is one of the most exciting players weve had a chance to watch, i cant help but notice how much better the offense ran without the CS accounting for him in the lineup. could be schotty, could just be coincidence, but it seems as though with brad smith there schotty is constantly trying to outsmart the other team with utilizing his large skill set. i dont know, this is complete conjecture but i was wondering if anyone else felt the same way.
     
  2. Dirty6Sanchez

    Dirty6Sanchez Well-Known Member

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    Its Schotty. We went back to a traditional balanced attack and the offense flourished because of it. No BS 3rd and 8s because schotty gained two yard on Brad Smith up the middle
     
  3. firemanedjr

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    There's a time and a place for the wildcat. When the offense was so bad in the first half last week, giving Brad Smith a couple snaps could've loosened things up. The problem is that Schotty doesn't know just when to use it--he'll interrupt the flow of the game.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    It's a good way to get the ball in a playmakers hands and see if he can exploit a defense. It's been successful for us a number of times, but seems to be a boom or bust type thing. When it works, it works great.

    Maybe there is something to the rhythm thing, but that defense we faced last week was nothing compared to the one we'll face this week.
     
  5. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    it hink against the Pats the wildcat isn't needed - the O-Line could control the Pats up front and they don't have any scary guys up front. The Steelers have a lot of speed and power up front with big time sack machines. The Wildcat could be useful against that just to force them to play on their heels a bit and get some yards on the ground.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I thought during the game that we probably would have been a ton more successful if we had Brad Smith in the game. The Pasts were weak at the edges and Smith's speed would have killed them in that game.

    I really hope he's back on Sunday.
     
  7. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Bingo, great points. The Patriots and Colts were teams we could outmuscle. While I still think our OL is good enough to get about 4 yards a pop on the Steelers, we won't be able to outmuscle them as easily. Sanchez will need to have a good game and Brad Smith could be vital to, as you say, loosen up the defense and make them play on their heels. Let's also keep in mind, he's one of a few players that we have that can break a TD on any play.
     
  8. ajax

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    Would prefer to have the wildcat available for the Steelers game. Especially in the first half since Sanchez seems to be starting these games with accuracy troubles. Once Sanchez accuracy is on then Schotty should use wildcat much less or drop it completely.
     
  9. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    I agree with the OP, I don't like it because it takes Mark out of his groove.
    If we use it late with a lead, fine. But not while we are driving steadily down the field.

    Didn't work the first time we played them and don't see it working now.

    I'd rather not see Brad Smith throw any balls at this point either, not against this defense.
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Brad Smith would be the x-factor in this game. Sure, the surface isn't the best for speed, but Brad Smith doesn't even need cleats to run. Advantage - Jets
     
  11. fozzi58

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    You sound like a gayshark fan talking about Sparano and his poor use of WC formations taking Chad "Vagina Forehead" Henne out of the groove.

    Agreed. But Pitts OLine is weak now and Smitch would probably pose just as much a threat. The difference is HairPie is going to come up and cut the gains short until Sanchez starts keeping him honest.
     
  12. Namath2Kolber

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    I think it's clear the Jets are a better team with Brad Smith. However, I'm generally not in favor of the wildcat. Why not do a reverse to Brad Smith instead or just motion him back as a RB? That way you aren't blatantly telegraphing that a run is coming. Granted, there is SOME threat that Brad Smith could throw but no one takes that seriously, at least not to the extent that they feel the need to do more than single cover the WRs.
     
  13. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Lately the WC has done nothing, just 2 yard runs up the middle because the outside is covered.

    We aren't going to fool the Steelers LBs with this, that's why we saw so little of it when we played them the first time, even with Sanchez hurting his shoulder.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It's how the Jets have figured out a way to use him effectively. You put most players familiar with the Wildcat/single wing/non-QB taking snaps type of offensive attack and they will only be able to execute some of the time.

    But teams know what is coming with Smith, and yet his speed is so deceptive that he ends up hitting the gap anyway. I am continuously amazed at the success rate the Jets have using Smith in such a one-dimensional role.
     
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    The wildcat is perfect when our offense needs a spark. BS is smart with the football and rarely fumbles is it or make a bad pitch. So it is low risk/high reward. The last 2 weeks our offense has been in a pretty good flow (except for the first half of Indy) and we really haven't needed it.

    I wouldnt use Smith until our offense needs that jolt, because I do think it can at times take Sanchez out of his groove. However, he is a momentum changer. And I agree that if healthy he needs to be given an opportunity to give us that spark whether it be wildcat or more preferably a screen or a reverse.
     
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    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    "RichCimini Rich Cimini
    Good news for #Jets: WR/KR Brad Smith (groin) on the field for practice, going through warm ups."



    Good news, I like Cromartie returning kicks though. That's a lot of running on a injured groin and we all know Cro has a very healthy groin.
     
  18. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    #16 warming up :up:

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  19. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    ^^^^

    Thank You for that Giant shitty picture. lol


    I'm pretty sure we could've taken their word for it... ha
     
  20. Namath2Kolber

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    I think that Brad Smith's success in running the wildcat is more indicative of his talent than the play itself. I think that, successful as the wildcat is, Brad Smith could do a lot more damage if the defense didn't see a run coming.
     

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