Someone on TGG, I forget who, said when Dallas Clark went down earlier in the season something along the lines of "Doesn't matter, Manning will just make another JAG look like a worldbeater". Step forward Jacob Tamme, who whilst not being Clark looks plenty good enough to give us a wretched time. You can cover the receiving options as well as you like, but if you give Manning time in the pocket someone will get open and he will hit them every time they do. If we don't get to Manning and make him hurry up then the secondary is irrelevant. For me, the choice of safety and the packages on the field are academic if our front seven doesn't find a way of beating the Colts OL early and often.
This is the problem I have w/ the Manning fellatio. He has been loaded w/ talent around him his entire career, Jacob Tamme was a 4th rd pick not some UDFA. He's not Dallas Clark but he has talent and the talent he has around him on O now is better than the talent Brady has on O. he doesn't have top 2-3 talent but rather top 7-10- poor guy.
Well said. If I were the coach (and had the ability), I would have two seperate game plans for both halves. Yes, its a lot of work for the coaches and the players to basically be playing two separate games with two halves, but if Manning figures out this D by half time, the change in game plan will cause Manning to throw a few errant passes IMO. Im sure this has been done before and probably with little success, but right now, I think it gives us the best chance to win. Another way to slow Manning's read of our D is to slow the game tempo down. The fewer defensive snaps, the better we can be. Disguising the D is where Rex needs to work on. Rex's bread and butter has been in a simple philosophy (we'll send more than u can block). I think this is the year Rex finally breaks loose on Manning. When he says its personal, that makes me think Rex has been preparing for Manning all along and wanted to face him in the playoffs regardless of who's on IR for Manning. This can be a hell of a game. I wouldn't expect anything less from a playoff game anyways.
Although Tamme has been a JAG, he's in his 3rd year and was a 4th round pick. Not exactly an undrafted FA, Tamme had enough tools in him for Manning to make him a reliable TE. Still, Tamme and White are their weakest links in the pass game.
people have been talking about stopping manning for years yet noone ever stops him. they get some nice interceptions and maybe he has an off day. In the playoffs Manning is going to be on. we gotta control the clock and run the ball and win the game at the line of scrimmage. we need big runs and good protection. the only way i see us winning is if we get big play tds like the greene run in the saddiego game and the BE td pass in the acfcg
Your memory is gone. He absolutely said that if Manning comes out he will take him and he said it before the draft. There was no way Manning wasn't going to return for his senior year.
That's what Gregg Williams and the Saints came up with in the Super Bowl last year.. two game plans, one for the second half so Manning couldn't catch on to what they were doing.
So true. If we keep manning off the field, he will have less snaps (and photos of the snaps) with which to identify our defensive tactics. What also may be interesting is to save some new wrinkles just for the second half, so if he somehow manages to figure us out in the first half, we come out and still screw with his head by altering our gameplan from hald to half.
Exactly what i was thinking. Basically, we KNOW how manning will react to a play the second time he sees it, so bait and switch.
You guys are making Manning out to be god. Hes 10-6. Theres plenty of film this year for us to look at on how to beat the Colts. Last year there was no film since he went 14-2 and was rested for 2 games.
Im guessing u didn't read the article. Manning is the most intelligent QB of the era, maybe even all time. Yes, he has lost 6 games, but a lot of them had to do with adjusting to new players, miscommunications on ints, defense and so on. He's not unbeatable. He's only had one successful post season and has reached it 9 straight times I believe. Not exactly the type of success you would be looking for, but don't let that blind you. Let me remind you, we had the 3rd best pass D in the NFL in the previous 20 years last year when he tore it apart within 32 minutes. Yes, we had couple of injuries, but he still made us look like the Texans giving up nearly 300 yards in one half. Reading what Lowery had to say about him, you have to admire him. We never get to hear about how a player reads the D. You can slow the the tape and try to guess all you want whether who would be blitzing, but I'll bet you you would only be able to guess maybe half of them. The article was excellent IMO. Yeah, it still hurts that we lost after an early two TD lead, but u can't deny why we lost. I wish it wasn't against us. However, I do think we have a much better chance of beating Manning this year than last year. Manning had to beat out a rookie QB, rookie RB, and a rookie HC last year. This year, he has a little bigger task on hand. He is facing a 2nd yr QB who has flashed greatness when the game is on the line (mostly), the RB trio that would keep em rested, and a CB tandem that may be the best in the league. As for Manning, he has his TE on IR, has his top 2 corners on IR (Collie - injury, Wayne - Revis), and Garcon would have to beat out Manning's nemesis. Their run game would probably be shut down, and they can't stop the run. I was scared about the thought of playing Mannings team in the post season this year, but when u think about it, if it wasn't for Colts home field advantage, Jets would be the favorites. Right now, I think the Jets still win.
Look at what Lowery said: But there was a point shortly before the half when Lowery says he lined up opposite his receiver, looked in at Manning and thought, "Uh-oh. He knows. He knows." Knows what? "Everything the defense had coming," Lowery said. "Not a good feeling," Lowery added, smiling weakly. And then this: Cole, still shaking his head in admiration Tuesday, said, "It was just ... weird. I mean, I've never seen anything like that. From anybody. Even Brady will only call out who the Mike [middle linebacker] is. Manning was calling out what everyone was going to do." When they realized Peyton Manning had figured them out, the Jets felt the momentum shift. Manning got into the heads of the Jets defensive players. He KNEW what they were doing. They felt naked, like a dead cow on a meathook being approached by a butcher. Manning knew who was going to pass rush. Knew who would blitz. Knew who would drop into coverage. That's almost like having an MLB in the offense's huddle. Another tidbit is that Tamme often doesn't make the same reads Manning does, and White is worse, combined with some bad route running. Just a couple of weks ago White ran a bad route in the end zone and knocked down a sure TD pass to Wayne. Manning does things no other QB can, ask Cole. He IS the Colts. Put any other QB in that game last year including Brady, and we win.
Manning is the person who was directly responsible for Manning not being a Jet. He wanted to go have his Senior year. Putting that on Parcells is bull. Parcells refused to give the Mannings a special guarantee - and he was correct to do so. If was pretty obvious the Jets were going to take Manning regardless of a special pre-draft guarantee. Blaming Parcells for Peyton not entering the draft in 1997 is idiotic. Manning made that decision - not Parcells.
I agree. But where are these "exotic blitz packages" Rex used to dial up? He better have something ready.
That's great but why can't he do it when it matters most? why does he melt under pressure in big games?
The AFC Champiuonship wasn't a big game? The Colts should have won the Supe last year. They made some big mistakes, including not covering an on sides kick. And to be clear, he isn't God. He can make mistakes. This reminds me of people who hate the Jets and if they see Revis get beat once they think he's oooohhh sooo over rated. One thing Manning has proven is that he knows how to read Rex's defenses.
It was and he was great but why are there not many more performances like that in big games like that? and his great title game performance was spoiled by throwing away the SUPER BOWL.
