Jets' 'Other Guys' must rise to occasion

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/columns/story?columnist=howard_johnette&id=5989370
     
  2. NY Jets68

    NY Jets68 Well-Known Member

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    Chilling stuff.
     
  3. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Great article, thanks for this. This really sheds some light on just how intelligent Peyton is, even compared to other cerebral QBs, like Brady. The guys is just a maniac. He knows exactly what's coming - so this gameplan for Rex - man it's gotta have about 70 different looks. Hopefully, these guys are studying up hard.
     
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    I really, really wish we had Leonard for this game, I think our ability to make changes on the fly on defense will be compromised because he's out.
     
  5. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    Peyton Manning is such a great QB it's sickening. I'm still mad at him for not entering the draft the year we had the #1 pick.
     
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    As smart as Peyton is and as physically gifted as he is it is all the more stunning how he has not been able to play better in big games.
     
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    ^I think Eric Smith can do that job alright. We'll see - he's been out for a while.
     
  8. nyjetsrule

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    that paragraph is exactly why Rex said to the press that it's personal between him and Manning. Manning is probably the only quarterback that has ever figured out rex's scheme entirely. Much less identifying completely new looks and wrinkles invented just for him, on the fly. Rex is pissed, and I have no doubt he has been working on things since Manning beat him last year. Manning will again figure it out on the fly, but the question is how long will it take? If it takes him an entire half, will that allow us to be ahead by enough to hold on late? When Manning figures us out, the big question is does he have enough to beat us without two of his biggest weapons in Collie and Clark?
     
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    So who in our defense is Wahlberg, and who is Ferrell?

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    Be mad at Parcells.

    IF Parcells would have committed to Manning that he would have without a doubt been the #1 pick, he would have come out.

    Parcells was unwilling to do so, because he knew he would not be around long enough to develop a young QB.

    As it turned out, he developed so fast Parcells could have benefited.

    Parcells gets such a god like rep, and IMO it's unwarranted.

    In NE, NYJ, Dallas, Miami, he has 0 SB's.

    He is directly responsible for the Jets not getting Manning, and not getting Bellicheck as HC.

    He is also responsible for Henne.
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    He passed on Matt Ryan too.
     
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    I hate to say it, but E Smith is just plain less consistent than Leonhard.

    I also don't want to overly detract from the point made in that article, but missing from it is a comparison of relative talent comparing the roster in that game, particularly in the second half, from this year's. Many of those successful completions went not only to Collie and Clarke, but also to Garcon who supposedly will be covered by Cromartie. And hopefully will be a much less important factor.

    Also interesting is the article made no mention at all of Wilson. Hm. While I doubt that was an unintentional oversight, based no doubt on the judgment that he will not be a factor, I remain hopeful that Wilson will help.
     
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    Yeah, but then again we had him last game when Manning ripped our secondary up to shreds.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    As great as he is we'd be incredibly frustarted w/ peyton if he was our QB and failing in big games time after time.

    Would we have gotten Brady w/ Belichick? if not I'm glad we didn't get BB. he would have failed here w/o Brady.
     
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    Jets lost to Miami... This is gonna be a tough game...
     
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    Sigh. That doesn't mean E Smith will do better.
     
  17. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    It seems like this could be countered very well by having multiple defenses off the same look where the multiples contain traps based on assumptions peyton would make from seeing it previously. Maybe I'm being naive.
     
  18. The Notorious J.E.T.S

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    Not to mention that his only championship teams were led by a defense that was led by Bill Belichick (who has gone on to win 3 championships WITHOUT Parcells.) I think it's safe to assume who the brain of that operation truly was.

    Parcells = Lucky Luciano
    Belichick = Meyer Lansky
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    How many titles has BB won w/o Brady? or w/o BP's staff? Parcells won SBs w/ 2 different QBs and led a third team to a SB. BP was the MUCH better HC, he just never lucked into having possibly the best QB of all time. W/o Brady BB would have been fired a LONG time ago.
     
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    I agree with you here. The Patriots with Drew Bledsoe behind center for the better part of the 2000s would have been awesome for the Jets.
     

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