Says who ? Mangini came here and coached us. Hell Jason Taylor is a fricken Jet. Are you telling me a guy who just got chased out of town wouldnt take a job in one of the greatest cities in the world, on a fast rising team whose offense is fricken LOADED with talent ? The biggest concern id see with this guy is how he gets along with players. But when you got someone like Rex who players love so much I dont see that being as much of an issue.
This pretty much, Belichick and his branch of coaching are more like a corporation, I view us as a bunch of frat boys
Yeah...they can run the "Good cop/Bad cop" routine.:rofl2: I think if Schitty is gone, the new OC is gonna be either someone already in-house (Callahan or Cavanaugh), or a guy Rex has worked with before.
Saying that McDaniels "basically made Tom Brady" is absolutely ridiculous. Tom Brady had already won 2 Super Bowls by the time McDaniels became New England's QB coach. He's done a good job throughout his career as an offensive coordinator, although it's tough to say how much credit he ultimately deserves for New England's great offense (you'll notice that they haven't exactly fallen apart in his absence.) My problem isn't with his abilities as a coordinator, however; it's with the fact that he's a rigid control freak who is hated by everybody that he worked with in Denver. I just have a really hard time seeing his corporate Belichick Jr. style working in Rex Ryan's free wheeling, open environment.
Gotta give McDaniels props on those trades he made though. He made out like a fricken bandit with the Cutler/Marshall deals. As great as some of the recent picks we made in recent years were, id personally love to see this team walk away from a draft with more than 2-3 draft picks a year
I personally hope McDaniels doesn't come anywhere near this team. I'd rather see the Jets promote from within. It will be better for Sanchez's development to promote a coach who knows how to work with him and already knows what he needs to work on like Cavanaugh or Callahan than bringing in someone from outside who has to spend half of his time learning how to work with Sanchez.
You are not a troll for your opinion. You are a troll for posting negative, single-sentence comments with no actual analysis and a blatantly inflamatory nature.
1. I have said countless times before, but I will say it again. Schottenheimer is NOT running WCO. He NEVER learned WCO, and thus has absolutely no experience in WCO. This offense is, as a result, NOT a WCO consequently. Ok - quite a few elements of WCO are present in any offensive playbook these days, but categorizing Schottenheimer's offense as WCO is simply a mistake. Schottenheimer's system is Chudzinski variation of Sid Gillman offense (or to the old folks from the 60's, Air Coryell offense.) This is the system Schotty learned under Norv, and thus is the system he is sticking to. Don't just take my words for it. Look at Jets offense these days. Jets offense never stretched the defense horizontally under any circumstances. Jets offense under Schottenheimer was always vertical, which was why it just never suited Pennington. Moreover, Schottenheimer never led his offense without a feature back except the miracle season - and that season Schottenheimer was actually supposed to have Curtis Martin as the lead back. WCO never features a ground and pound RB - rather WCO utilizes RBs as a receiver out of the backfield. 2. I do not think bringing McD will be such a good idea under any circumstances. Terminologies, play philosophies and the way offensive crew are supposed to conduct offense are very different. If at all, McD's system is Erhardt-Perkins system if my guess is correct (meaning the continuity is dust once he comes in.) That's about all the offensive system he could have been exposed to. If Jets brass intend to keep him around for the entire career of Sanchez, I might not oppose it, but from what I have seen, McD's variation of Erhardt-Perkins is quite contrary to the flavor Rex prefers; i.e. while you CAN go smashmouth with Erhardt-Perkins (as Parcells have done over and over again at Giants, Patriots and Jets) what I have seen from McD's treatment wasn't the most robust flavor of smashmouth - i.e. he always preferred wide-open passing attack. Unless you have a hall-of-fame QB like Tom Brady, that scheme is bound to fail come playoff time. And NO. McD's offense is not WCO either. If at all, it's distinctively east-coast flavor. 3. As far as WCO goes, Jets need one more shifty slot receiver. Holmes and Braylon will be staying out on the split end, and Cotchery will be the safety blanket as the featured possession receiver. Also, if WCO is the way to go, then forget about Shonn Greene. McKnight will be the featured back in that situation. ----------------------------------------------------------- For this reason, I have said in other thread that I would like to see Chargers lay a giant goose eggs at the tail end of the season to finish the season 8-8 and have Norv fired. Norv would be the best candidate to replace Schottenheimer, if at all. (Same - or extremely similar - system with basically same terminology + much better play calling)
You make two legit points, and obviously we can speculate all we want but we can't assume we know what buddy is thinking..... BUT, this isn't an HC job which makes your Mangini point moot, and twilight years JT was just happy to be employed...... JMcD may very well have mutiple offers, he might have none.... but rest assured he could always go back to NE*'s staff and have a place. He won't be our OC.
Your entire analysis is correct if you're comparing Schitt's offense to Bill Walsh's.... as previously mentioned, in 2010 there are many versions of the WCO as NFL defenses have adjusted since the 80's, and therefore you see many versions of it.
Indeed - Shannahan and McCarthy do utilize feature back. But in case of Shannahan, it's more of his OL doing the job, and McCarthy is running more conservative flavor of WCO. For instance, Andy Reid's offense features backs that can both run and catch passes (with emphasis on the latter) Thus unless Jets intend to bring in either Shannahan or Mike McCarthy, the running back discussion should hold valid. On top of that, feature back or not, that doesn't change the fact that Schottenheimer's system is Chudzinski variation of Sid Gillman offense.
Such thoughts are totally ridiculous. How many years did Rex spend with Baltimore's D n still failed to produce a TD for us? U would think he knew how to beat his own D. It's dumb when people say that. How many times did Mangini help us beat Patriots? Seriously, McD will not be hired simply for knowing the Pats offense.
Did u forget how Beli didn't trade Cassel to McD? Respect for Belidouche would be the last thing on McDs mind. Having said that, I don't McD here. A QB learns from consistency n we need Schotty for Marks break out season. Then only can we think about changing OC in Marks 4th yr. There is a reason why QBs r called franchise QB. The entire franchise depends heavily on him.
The offense Callahan ran at Oakland is not the offense he set up - it was WCO because John Gruden was WCO disciple. If at all, he never ran anything close to WCO during his stay at Nebraska.
