4th quarter Third and 3 call

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I was angry at the time, but after a day I am not. They went for the win, you can't blame Schotty for that. After years and years of conservative play costing us big late season games (even vs. Pitt in playoffs) to attempt to just win it there is something you have to respect.

    Plus hindsight is 20/20. Of course Pittsburgh wouldnt have been able to take that timeout to regroup after that sack and pick up that 3 and 27, but how the hell is schotty supposed to know they would eventually be in that situation? Its Schotty's fault they picked up a ridiculous 3 and 27 in their own end????

    You want to be mad at any playcalling be mad at Rex and his defense. Since when did the Jets Defense become the pansy play on the heels defense we used to see. The pansy prevent defensive calls almost cost us the game. Thank god they called a timeout and elected to play their normal defense when Pittsburgh got to the 10 yard line but it coulda been too late!!!
     
  2. Tballlz63

    Tballlz63 Active Member

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    i would've loved to see brad smith in the wildcat on that play. he's usually good for at least 3 yards.
     
  3. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    In retrospect we should have ran it, and I saw Santonio open as well that could have gone for extra yards but it wouldn't have mattered. We had an inelligible receiver downfield on that play so even a completion would have backed us up.
     
  4. AbdulSalam

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    I agree w/you WSW. I thought the 3/3 call was retarded too but its interesting that other folks were okay with that pass play. I wanted to run the ball for 3 yds and force Pitt to use the TO.

    I am also w/you on the penalty w/47 seconds left. I would have backed them up.

    But hey we all can't be Bill Walsh - hopefully the CS will study their decisions and see where they can make improvements going forward Or maybe I'm just wrong on both counts.
     
  5. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    I was a little aggravated when we declined that penalty. I really didn't care about the extra down ... especially since extra plays take extra time off the clock. They needed to get into the enzone to beat us, and as far as I'm concerned the farther away they were, the better.
     
  6. kbgreen

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    Weren't we complaining that last week he was too predictable? He mixed it up and tried to be less predictable. I'm OK with that. I would have liked a completion to keep the clock running but he tried to keep the steelers guessing. Which is good.
     
  7. soxxx

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    I just didnt like how Sanchez was in the shotgun I believe. If you are going to pass, do a play action pass. It PA pass probably had a better chance than a shotgun.

    Or they could have set up in shotgun and did a draw play.
     
  8. kinghenry89

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    I agree with this analysis completely. On 3rd and 3 all that matters is getting the first down--if Schotty and Rex believed that they had a better chance of getting it through the air, I trust their judgment. Maybe it would've been better to go play action there, but whatever. You have to trust your defense to stop Pittsburgh from going 95 yards for the touchdown in that situation.

    And I definitely had a problem with passing on second and 5. That was where we should've run under any circumstances.
     
  9. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    That's what I want to see on 3rd and short as well.

    Its always shotgun on 3rd and short and teams know how to gameplan for it. It seems to barely work.

    Let him be under center and give the defense something else to play against rather than pinning their ears back.

    The call is still wrong because no matter what the gain or loss on that play, the idea is to burn time. How the fuck do you hand them an extra timeout? You have to burn clock no matter what, even if the run play went for minus 6, you have to burn time.

    I will say this though, the draw play on 3rd and 4 was brilliant, because not one person watching that game expected it. Schotty never runs draws.
     
  10. 10nyjets87

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    I loved the call because they were trying to win the game, but it was a little predictable. They should have spread them out and run a draw, or run playaction out of the unbalanced line, run a play that goes against the tendency of a formation.
     
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  11. Big Blocker

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    I think it was to speculative to look ahead and guess whether the Steelers would really need the time out they would have burned if the Jets ran the ball. I liked the aggression. The Jets were doing what they thought was the most likely way to get the first down. Running on third and three against that D was not all that promising. There had been several running plays tried earlier in the half that had failed o get even 3 yards.

    It's not as black and white as some here seem to think.
     
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  12. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Sure it is. 10 times out of 10 you want to force your opponent to use there last timeout or the 2 minute warning there. We were beginning to wear down there front 7 and pickup good gains on the ground. Run was the easy, smart call.

    If you want to pass, please do it under center with play action and have Nacho boot so he has one read and if it's not open he runs. It was an elementary situation that was handled poorly. Aggression is nice, but you have to use it wisely. I would consider that play call reckless and unnecessary aggression.
     
  13. rex-N-effects

    rex-N-effects New Member

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    good play call, just didn't get it done
     
  14. Revis Is Here24

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    I wouldve ran in that situation. We had some success with some of those trick run plays.
     
  15. DisgruntledLionFan

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    I hated that call only because you're relying on your #3 to make the correct read/call.

    Sanchez, like Stanton, should have ate the ball.
     
  16. RevisOfNazareth

    RevisOfNazareth New Member

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    running wouldn't have done any good. if we didn't get the first down the clock stops for change of possession anyway i thought.

    im ok with the call. besides, we won. fuck em.
     
  17. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    It was 3rd down, not 4th.
     
  18. RevisOfNazareth

    RevisOfNazareth New Member

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    blah yeah my bad i misread the title. numbers switched.
     
  19. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    Conversely I thought the call to throw it on 2nd down was awful. Maybe my feelings escalated because sanchez essentially threw the ball away, but I thought there was no way you do not run the ball there. On third down you are more in a situation to try and convert so I didn't mind it as much. The only reason I can see you throwing on 2nd down is because they wouldn't expect as they did on 3rd down, but I think you had to run the ball on at least one of the plays to burn out some clock.

    Great avatar by the way, hilarious!
     
  20. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    incomplete pass stops the clock,a run makes them use a TO. besides,we were running ok during that drive and had momentum.
     

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