Woodhead shines light on Shott, Tanny flaws

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  1. GSourJr

    GSourJr New Member

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    Danny Woodhead's two long scampers point the finger at 2 key problem areas.

    The fact that Schottenheimer could not find a place for Woodhead's speed and quick feet in this offense suggests he's more like his father than we have feared. The Pats found a way to use the "disadvantage" of Woodhead's small stature to good use, by having him run a simple pattern into the pile and then veer out to the flat for a short catch and long YAC after the defense lost him in a sea of bodies. This kind of play never occurred to BS?


    The fact that Tannebaum would not part ways with one of his "draft picks" (McKnight) or one of these other non-factors for a player they described in their own words (on Hard Knocks) as a full-throttle, do-whatever-you-need, team player who just finds a way to make plays" clearly shows this guy really doesn't know how to build a "team." The Jets had made a smart move--they picked up a heady, productive player for free, the top player in Divison III, a Belchick-type player. And they let him go. The GM needs to see the potential, recognize the intangibles, and push the coaches to find a place and a role for the player in order to build "a team". Tannenbaum doesn't do it. He picks names, just like we do.

    He's collecting parts, but there is no chemistry, cohesiveness or leadership being imported. They're mercenaries who are really only concerned with themselves. Holmes and Edwards have brought explosiveness to the offense, but also boneheadness, penalties, dropped balls and no leadership. Jason Taylor is done and taking valuable playing time from Gholston who has shown some flashes and really, really needs to play more.

    I don't know if the Jets rise up and fix things" as Ryan has been promising to do after each last minute escape for a month, or fall on their faces like the 86 and 95 teams.

    I do know that Shottenheimer needs to go, and the Jets need a GM who is more concerned with building a team than feathering his own reputation with flashy flawed signings and draft picks who don't deserve roster spots.
     
  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I love when you show up to make bad threads.
     
  3. DustinK

    DustinK New Member

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    Yes, fire everyone. That is the only solution.
     
  4. ppls17

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    This is just dumb. We let him go because he was sitting behind tomlinson and Greene and is better than neither of them. He made some plays congrats to him but tam has put a great core in place here. We have a solid young team with upcoming QB stop overreacting to one loss.
     
  5. Hemi

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    You must realize that it is not all on Tanny to decide who gets cut and who stays. I am sure he had meetings with Rex, Westhoff, Pettine and Schotty on who they thought they could let go and who would stay.

    We get it, they let a scrappy young player in Woodhead go. He is doing well on another team. Perhaps you just look at the negative without knowing the whole story. Who is to say it is McKnight that was on the block vs. Woodhead?

    Time to move on.
     
  6. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    If only we had kept Woodhead we would have dominated last night.
     
  7. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Spilt Milk... get over it, Woodhead isn't here, and it was the right choice...
     
  8. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. I can't believe someone can honestly justify in their brain that the Jets cutting Woodhead over McKnight mean Tanny is a bad GM. I didn't agree with the move either, but look at the guy's track record. God damn near flawless.

    You act like the "flashy" acquisitions haven't been helping us win. Ask yourself where we'd be if we had Cotchery, Stuckey and Smith over Holmes, Braylon and Cotchery. Ask yourself who would bail out Sanchez out of the backfield, because it wouldn't be anywhere near as good as LT. Ask yourself who would be our other pass-rusher on an already weak pass-rushing defense? They would be worse than Jason Taylor.

    Use your head and whatever it is you have in it.
     
  9. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    If we kept Woodhead, he would have been inactive every week from now until the end of the season and New England would still be 10-2. Maybe w/o Woodhead they only beat us by 39 and not 42
     
  10. Jets n Boys

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    What have u been smoking? There isn't a single GM I would take ahead of Tanny right now. This was not the best draft the Jets have had, but did u forget about the last 3-4 drafts? Its those drafts and FA acquisitions that has us at 9-3 right now.

    Not to mention the cap hell we were in when Mike T took over the team. He has kept a lot of talent while maintaining the cap.
     
  11. Jets n Boys

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    No, Sanchez would not be a Jet if it wasn't for Tanny. Let me rephrase that for you:

    Ask yourself who would bail out Kellen Clemens...
     
  12. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    That time of the year again. Jsour is back with more of his assinine posts....
     
  13. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    How can anyone bash Tanny at this point come on.
     
  14. jmclaw

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    Taking valuable time from Gholston?? I can say definitively that Gholston is the biggest POS to ever put on a Jet uni. The fucking guy has no passion, I would like him to be cut today.
     
  15. rex-N-effects

    rex-N-effects New Member

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    woodhead had 3 years to make the active squad and never did, he only got a chance due to kevin faulks injury. he fits their offense. a bunch of small quick pass catchers
     
  16. JCotchrocket

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    This is all accurate.

    I'm sorry to beat the dead horse here, guys. I know everyone is sick of the "we should have kept Woodhead" comments, but it needs to be said.

    If you've got a talented player, you adjust the scheme to fit the talent. It's that simple. I find it bizarre that a lot of quality posters here seem committed to the fact that "cheap, homegrown, hard-running, fumble-less, quick and great hands" doesn't fit our scheme, but whatever.

    The biggest issue I have is that the same people who knocked Woodhead rave about the Santonio Holmes acquisition. Is Holmes more talented than Woodhead? Without a doubt. But he, too, does not fit our scheme. As such, we've changed from a ground and pound offense to a... well... whatever it is we are now.

    No. Wrong. The Jets need an offensive coordinator who either a) has an identity on offense or b) can create an identity with the players provided by the very, very, very good GM. I feel the same way about the Jets offense that I did about the Mangini defense. Who the hell are we? Are we the ground and pound? Are we the Smith option? Are we smoke and mirrors? Are we the dominant air attack? Are we all these things? Are we none of them? So very Kafka...


    In closing, here's what I find most funny (not funny "haha," but funny "football to the groin") about the Woodhead situation. Rex wants to develop an undrafted free agent badly, ala Jim Leonhard. He had one in Woodhead; a small guy, a fierce competitor, a football player, like Leonhard. Woodhead was let go to make room for Patrick Turner, a great measurables prospect who hasn't produced.

    And Patrick Turner just knocked out Jim Leonhard for the season.
     
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  17. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    I think its basically very short white guys that prosper with Brady...we should concentrate on that the next time we cut one of them...how tall is Folk?
     
  18. NDmick

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    Wasn't around during the winning streaks
     
  19. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    Haha yeah, that point alone dropped the credibility of the post 1,000%. Trying to ignore that statement though, it does seem like the Jets players are pieces of a puzzle all from different puzzle sets. There is no way they will connect unless the were reshaped. Schotty certainly doesn't reshape this offense. He seems like he's coaching as if he were hired yesterday and only is going by what he knows and not crafting it towards the strengths of the offense.
     
  20. BillyD0123

    BillyD0123 New Member

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    Please mods, don't taze me


    Don't play the race card with me here. But, as far as winning with slow, short white guys. You do realise the Patriots are the only team (I think)that can start an all white offensive lineup.
     

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