Nick Folk finding new life with Jets

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    1) The Jets have played more games than quite a few teams at this point.
    2) The Jets have score more times than most teams
    1&2 tell me that total yardage means jack. Average is a much better number to use.
    3) We just played in Denver which helps all kickers, whether some people in here want to believe it or not.
    4) The Jets coverage unit under Westhoff has historically been very good.

    I don't think the stats you posted are an accurate measure of how well he's been kicking off. I'm not complaining about his kickoffs, but I would hardly say he's been "booming" them.
     
  2. Reximus Prime

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    Yeah, this.

    I have no complaints about Nick Folk to this point, but there have been quite a few kicks that have been caught around the 10 yard line, and he kicked one out of bounds. We happen to have a great coverage team so it doesn't really hurt, but before the Denver game, his kickoffs defintely left something to be desired. Yards per kickoff would be a better barometer than total yards because there are so many factors that can go into having more kickoffs than other kickers. However, even yards per kickoff is not a perfect stat, because when Matt Prater kicks an onside kick that goes 12 yards, it negatively affects his average. Like I said though, I LOVE what Folk has done so far this year, he's been a pro bowl kicker, and with our coverage team, I'll take him not putting it in the endzone every time if he's going to make almost every one of the field goals from any distance.

    I don't miss Jay Feely, but with the Jets cutting Cummings, it would be great to have him to put him at ILB. Imagine how many tackles he would have per game.
     
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    I can't believe we have NIck Folk as our kicker. roflmiwofle
     
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    Can you imagine this being touted on draft day. "Well, the truth is Gholston can't even tackle as well as the team's kicker, but it is what he does best..."
     
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    Folks 5 Touchbacks in his 5 Denver kickoffs is as many as his previous 200 career kickoffs.

    Crazy Stat-
     
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    Denvers air has no affect on kicks. That is some misconception started by WSW....This proves nothing..........lol
     
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    I was one of the posters (even started a post) very worried about Folk when I heard he was missing chippies in the preseason. I am glad I was wrong to this point. I thought for sure he would cost us games early on but just the opposite. While I understood we needed to let Feely go to sign a vet (Taylor) due to the Final Four rule, I was very nervous and not too happy after hearing he was missing kicks in preseason. To credit some on the board, I was told to chill and wait til the regular season to start complaining. Again, glad to be wrong.
     
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    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I was pretty worried about that folker too but he's done great.
     
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    Excellent post. I was one of Folk's supporters when we signed him, but his kickoff troubles in Dallas were concerning. He's done much better since he's been in New York, but it's hardly fair to say he's booming them.
     
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    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Not to bring anything extra into this thread but it's moves like this that give me confidence in the teams decisions when they let good football players leave.
     
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    Folk has been doing very well on kick-offs. I'd like to see a few more touchbacks, but I think the important edge he has over Jay Feely is hangtime.

    This is a hunch, of course; I'm not watching kick-offs with a stop watch. But it seems like he's giving the coverage team a little more time to get down the field than I remember Feely supplying.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but in any case, I'm very, very pleased with our kick-off coverage team this year.
     
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    Yeah, Feely was a great kicker for us. Folk had more upside, and I was thrilled when I found out he was working with Sailer in the offseason. When it comes to KOs, though, neither is stellar. It just doesn't make as much of a difference when Westhoff is coaching our coverage teams.
     
  13. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I never doubted Folk because when I read that he was 100% healthy and was confident in his leg before TC started I knew he'd be fine.

    It's about their heads and their leg technique. Folk fixed both.
     
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    Jay Feely for Jason Taylor and Nick Folk. Win.
     
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    Too bad Joe McKnight cancels out all the positive additions we made to the team.
     
  16. Since I was 9

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    Feely was fearless but if you watch film on the 2 TD runs by Ginn, Feely (the saftey valve on kickoffs) over committed, and that was why Ginn burned us for 2.
    Folk & Taylor > Feely
    Another great Tanny move.
    And with our 5-1 record it seems our locker room chemistry is not the issue every media outlet predicted it would be!
     
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    Did you just junc me? No homo
     
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    We could go 15-1 and win the Super Bowl and it would still be bittersweet because we did it with Joe McKnight and not Leon Washington or Danny Woodhead.
     
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    I'm rooting for us not to win the Super Bowl just to show Tanny how important Leon was to this team.
     
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    That's really lowbrow of you...
     

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