*Rumor* of Bills switching to Cover-2 (hybrid) Defense =)

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  1. Catt_County

    Catt_County Banned

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    Wrong on Peerless and Josh. The Pats were interested in Peerless and the Panthers offered Josh a contract.

    I said McGahee was the best back currently in the AFC East. I didn't say he was the best last year. I would rank Ricky the best. However, he's not here this year, so that leaves Willis, who will do much better this year.

    As I said, the regular season will reveal the Bills as much better than advertised in the national media.
     
  2. Jetdic

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    I just moved back to Rochester from Buffalo. I've lived there for 4 years and I am certain that you are the only person who feels this way. WGR and every Bills fan and there mother that calls the station all know that the Bills have done little right this offseason. You're a fan and I would have little respect for you if you weren't speaking highly of what you think will be great moves by the Bills. However, 3 weeks into the season when Buffalo is 0-3, you'll be singing a different tune.

    Let's just agree that the Sabres rule and injuries broke our heart. I'm a Sabre season ticket holder.
     
  3. BuffaloBills06

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    Losman and Evans hooked up for 2 more scores against the Chiefs so thats 5x they hooked up. How are your WR, TE, and RB's doing these days? You talk about our team but Curtis Martin is old and spent, Coles and McCareins did what this year. Oh yeah and how about that TE that you wasted a 1st rd pick on instead of drafting Miller.
     
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  4. Jetdic

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    This is a thread on the Bills. Curtis Martin did more in his career than McGahee could possibly wish. Coles and McCareins had 4 different qb's and more injuries than any offense in the league. Last year wasn't a fair assessment on the offensive side of the ball. However, the Bills have a streak of losing to 3rd string teams on the last game of the season the past 2 years. On a side note, Bills fans have no business speaking of wasted 1st round picks since the turn of the century.
     
  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't make much sense to draft by need, so by saying that you're already saying you had a bad drafting plan.
     
  6. nightowltom

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    The Patriots had no interest in Price. Price's agent planted the story and got the Bills to bid against themselves for a wide receiver who can only see well with one eye. Patriots brought him in last year when they were desperate for a wideout and sent him home after looking at the medicals.
     
  7. nightowltom

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    The Tampa 2 won't work in Buffalo because the linemen aren't quick enough. Triplett and McCargo will get run on leaving the entire D vulnerable because you can't play the Tampa 2 if you have to bring up a safety to help with the run defense.
     
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    John Mcargo? You could have gotten him the 2nd round and not given up a thing to get him. I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything it's just my guess from what i saw in the draft. It could work out later but for now i think it was a bit of stretch to get him.
     
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    Very well put. Makes alot of sense.
     
  10. Catt_County

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    WGR is trash. The only good thing about it is that it carries the Sabres.

    The Bills are going to surprise a lot of people this year by doing a lot better than expected, especially in the second half of the season. Don't be surprised if Donte Whitner is a serious contender for Defensive ROY -- and the jackarses on WGR change their tunes.
     
  11. Catt_County

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    Why doesn't it make sense? Sorry, I've seen the Bills do the "take the best player available" thing in the Donahoe era, and it "don't impress me much". Now, maybe if your team's already loaded with talent, you can go that way, but for rebuilding teams, it makes sense to draft to fill needs -- like both the Bills and Jets did in 2006.
     
  12. Catt_County

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    nightowltom & crowder52:

    Triplett was signed and McCargo drafted specifically because they fit into the Tampa2 scheme. Triplett played in the line rotation in the Colts' version of the Tampa2. The Bills passed on other DL players, notably Ngata, because they didn't fit the scheme. They took Whitner over Bunkley because they needed both safety and DT, and they figured that McCargo would still be around, but there wasn't another safety anywhere near Whitner. They moved up to grab McCargo because they felt that the Giants would take him, and again, there wasn't any other DT nearly as good after JM.

    Whether these moves all work out, nobody knows. What does seem likely is that the Bills will get more out of the players they have because they are no longer trying to fit square pegs into round holes. They've kept and acquired players who have the skills and talent to fit their defensive and offensive schemes rather than trying to force players to fit into a system.
     
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    This is a no brainer switch for Buffalo. I'm not particularly enamored of the Cover 2 Defense, because I think you need freakish athleticism and repitition to run it properly, but I think they have the tools. The corners are quick, Schobel is a nice rusher, and they have some quicker backers in Spikes, Fletcher, and recently acquired Courtney Watson. I don't think Jeff Posey is a fit, and they'll probably have to drop a few non-system guys here or there, but they have the secondary and the penetration guys to make it work.

    -X-
     
  14. Crowder52

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    The Giants took Mathias Kiwanuka right?
     
  15. nightowltom

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    To run the Tampa 2, the safeties have to be able to play on the outside and funnel everything into the middle with their speed and quick reads. Buffalo has the corners but not the safeties. Troy Vincent is not up to that type of D anymore and Whitner, while a great prospect, is a rookie. Top qb's salivate at the thought of an aggressive rookie at safety thinking, "Fake him up inside making it look like he'll get a big hit--then go deep to the wide open receiver--6."
     
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    The problem is that Triplett will not be able to play in a rotation because there's no one decent to back him up and the Bills D will be on the field a lot this year because vertical offenses are often a quick 3 and out. He's never been a full time player and will find that you can't go full throttle for a full game as a DT without some help from a decent backup who can rotate in for an occasional series. McCargo is an untested rookie and will be victimized on a regular basis by veteran O linemen until he figures out the NFL. The only real back up is Tim Anderson and he was god awful last year. The Bills unwillingness to beef up their D line is a mistake as it assumes that no injuries will occur and the starters won't wear out. Highly unlikely. If I'm looking at the Bills as an opponent I'm sending my biggest back up the middle (including lots of trap plays) until I wear down the line. Then it's fun time for the passing game.
     
  17. Martin&theJETS

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    I dont care what kinda defense the bills run. we will still beat um.
     
  18. LolTolhurst

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    not in Buffalo...the Jets will get their asses kicked there like they always do. Bills and Jets always split
     
  19. DHBILLSFAN

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    What I find extremly funny is that most of you's talk about how much the Bills are going to suck when you should really look in your own stadium...... oh, wait thats right you dont have your own stadium. :rofl:

    Anyways, im not saying the Bills are going to have a break out year and win the division or anything but come on. Jet fans saying the Bills suck is the pot calling the kettle black.
     
  20. SigmaXJet

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    your QB situation is worse than ours. 8 men in the box and the Bills won't do anything this year, McGahee won't last
     

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