Clemens: 5 TD - 11 INT in his Career 51.8% completion. Has never thrown more than 1 TD in a single game. Mark Brunell: 182 TD - 107 Int, 59.5 % completions Both started one game last year and had almost identical numbers. Clemens is not much of an upgrade and does not offer Sanchez the knowledge that Brunell has. Hell last year in camp Ainge looked like the better choice to be the backup last season.
Although I agree on the knowledge offering/mentoring part, I don't agree Brunell to be the better QB of the two. You are comparing apples to apples but one set of apples is too old to be comparing against. You are looking at Brunells stats when he was in his 20s and 30s. He is now in his 40s, and he will naturally regress by every passing day. KC is the better QB of the two as of right now and I really don't care what these two have done in the past. However, neither will offer us a great chance of winning if their services are required.
Right now, Brunell is a great mentor for Mark. But I also think Clemens is better than Brunell. As scary as that might sound, I believe it to be true.
Remember what a QB is supposed to do in our system (especially when Sanchez is out)? MANAGE the game. Clemens commits too many mental mistakes to be a good game manager... Brunell instead is the ultimate game manager with his experience and game style.
Weather its Mork Brunnell or Kelin Clements, the team would be in dire straits if Sanchez went down. Both QBs are roughly the same quality as your typical back-up NFL QB.
I'm afraid with only 12 passing yards by our starter in a shaky effort and no Revis, we might be 8-8 this year
here we go again. edit: a its still pretty early - you know preseason. b carolina is actually pretty good defensively c did i mention preseason? d contrary to belief held by certain fans in buffalo, the preseason is not a forecast of the season to come. another edit... revis is the difference between an elite D and a great D. without him we are still effin scary.
The Giants won a SB with a backup QB. So could we. Baltimore won a SB with TRENT DILFER a loser if ever there was one. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Though it pains me to say (your avatar notwithstanding), history suggests otherwise... ...just ask Tom 18-0 Brady. Or, Trent Dilfer. (Fasel lost field advantage the moment he chose to receive upon winning the coin flip). Brad Johnson's Bucs rang up 40+ in their SB win over the Raiders but that was due in large measure because of--former oak coach--Jon Gruden. Brad Johnson? Eh? I'll admit, I've an issue with the Jet's apparent focus on 'back-seven' coverage; I'd love a front four (Bears/Ravens-kill the qb) approach....but Rex knows more than I or anyone here has forgot vis-a-vis the NFL.
true I agree, but in the last few years the Super Bowl has been won by above average to top flight QB's. 2009: Brees (top 3 QB in the league - possible hall of famer already) 2008: Roethlisberger (pro bowl QB) 2007: Peyton Manning (1st ballot hall of famer) 2006: Eli Manning (pro bowl QB - although not elite in my opinion) 2005: Roethlisberger (not the QB he is now, but still effective) 2004: Brady (1st ballot hall of famer) 2003: Brady Brad Johnson and Dilfer were the last of the "mediocre" guys to win it. The league has become more quarterback friendly with some of the rules implemented as far as hits on the QB, and the ways secondaries can be flagged now.
34miami23, and true, I too agree with you in large measure (and nice list--btw, ever thought of changing your username to 42miami0)? ;-) But, if I can walk down your list: 2009: Brees (top 3 QB in the league - possible hall of famer already) no argument...and to think the Chargers had both he and Rivers (with the NYG draft wish) over a barrell.....hmmm.. 2008: Roethlisberger (pro bowl QB) at the same time, it took (granted a great fade pass but more of a great Raymond Berry-foot-in-bounds catch) a sensational play at the buzzer by Santonio Holmes to pull out a win against a defensively-challenged Cardinal underdog that the Jets dropped 54 points on earlier in the year. 2007: Peyton Manning (1st ballot hall of famer) no argument 2006: Eli Manning (pro bowl QB - although not elite in my opinion) again, as in the case of Big Ben in '08, it took a sick play (and Samuel's dropped INT) to keep a drive alive at the end. But imho, it was the defensive line that was the real MVP that game. 2005: Roethlisberger (not the QB he is now, but still effective) against another underdog in a game Seahawk fans are still bitching and moaning about the 'refs' screwing them. Yes Pitt won, but not an overwhelming performance by Ben. 2004: Brady (1st ballot hall of famer) 2003: Brady no argument Yes it's a QB league and QB's often (but not always) are the determining factor. I'm just saying that if the Jets are to win the SB, they're gonna have to most likely beat a team with more of an elite name at QB and given their overall 'mission statement' style of play, I think they'd be best served by focusing on preventing their opponent's 'elite' QB' from beating Sanchez' offense by virtue of Rex devising a game plan that kills the opposing QB. I think that style of "D" even in today's "QB-friendly" NFL can still be accomplished. You can 'cover-and-cover-and-cover' all you want, but taking time-and-distance away from an offense imho still has a place in today's game. Regards.
I think Brunell should be used as the main mentor for Sanchez. HOWEVER, if for some Sanchez will be out long term *knock on wood* I think Clemens should be the starter. Brunell is a good stop gap for blowouts and one game absences but if our season depended on it I would go with Clemens. (Yes I know this option sucks stay healthy Mark)
