The Darrelle Revis No Longer Holding Out Thread

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  1. Cman68

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    Depends on the new CBA and cap number doesn't it.. Lets not forget all those guys have numbers in mind already so don't be surprised if we go thru this drama again with some of those names.
     
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  3. GA Jets

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    Not to mention, if there is a lockout next season, God forbid, he will essentially be out of football and a large paycheck for 2 years!
     
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    This isn't a cash-flow issue. The Front Office is just being prudent.
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5449302

    CORTLAND, N.Y. -- The New York Jets, responding to a new contract proposal made last Friday by Darrelle Revis' agents, painted a bleak picture Monday of the contract stalemate. A grim-faced Woody Johnson said he's not optimistic about their chances of signing the All-Pro cornerback to a new contract before the start of the regular season.

    "The answer is no," the Jets' owner said tersely, adding, "My impression is no progress ... no movement whatsoever."

    Expanding on that sentiment, Johnson told ESPN's Jeremy Schaap Monday that he doesn't expect Revis to play for the Jets this season.

    "My gut feeling is, I would say no," Johnson said.


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    Revis is entrenched in his position and has told friends he won't play in 2010 for his current $1 million salary, according to league sources. This could blow up on the Jets, who will be hard-pressed to fulfill their Super Bowl mandate without their best player.

    Revis' agents, Jon Feinsod and Neil Schwartz, met with general manager Mike Tannenbaum for three hours last Friday at a diner in rural Roscoe, N.Y., about two hours from Cortland. They handed him a three-page document.

    "We gave Mike a proposal to show Mr. Johnson," Schwartz told ESPNNewYork.com Monday afternoon. "We're awaiting a response."

    Tannenbaum said he made the agents aware of the team's position at the meeting. He said the new proposal included some "technical changes." But he added, "We still have a very fundamental difference of opinion on what the appropriate compensation should be. Until we get that solved, there's really not much to discuss."

    Johnson said the proposal contained "nothing new and different, as they say in marketing." But Schwartz disagreed, saying there were new elements.

    "This proposal addressed all parties' issues and concerns to be resolved in this matter," he said.

    The latest back-and-forth came on a day in which coach Rex Ryan said the team is preparing for the possibility of life without Revis, whose holdout has reached nine days. Revis has accumulated more than $148,000 in fines.

    "We're going to prepare like he's not going to be here," Ryan said after the morning practice. "If he comes through the door, that's fine. Somebody will kiss him on the lips, probably. It doesn't matter. We're getting this team ready. The guys that are here, we're getting ready."

    It was the first time that Ryan acknowledged the possibility of an extended absence by Revis. The two sides are trying to negotiate a new contract for Revis, who has three years remaining on his current deal, but they appear far apart.

    Last Thursday, the agents called Tannenbaum to propose a meeting. They opted for Roscoe because it's roughly the midpoint between Cortland and Rockland County, N.Y., where Schwartz and Feinsod are based. The meeting also included Ari Nissim, the Jets' contract guru, and it lasted three hours.

    The group huddled at the Roscoe Diner, a popular stop for college students driving to schools in upstate New York. In fact, the diner's walls are covered with pennants from dozens of colleges. Amid that backdrop, the two sides took what could be a significant step toward reaching a resolution to the contract impasse.

    Interestingly, producers of HBO's "Hard Knocks" wanted to film the meeting for the reality show, which debuts Wednesday night, but Revis' agents declined, according to Schwartz.

    Schwartz refused to reveal any specifics from their written proposal, but it's said to contain a unique clause that would help bridge the gap in negotiations. The Jets' last offer came on the eve of training camp. They offered a long-term package of more than $100 million, but it included only a small amount of fully guaranteed money -- about $5 million in 2010. Revis was so upset that it sealed his decision to stage a holdout.

    Tuesday could be a key date in the stalemate. By rule, if a holdout doesn't report by Aug. 10, he doesn't get credit for 2010 as an accrued season. Basically, that means he loses a year toward free agency. That might cause some players to reconsider their stance, but the Aug. 10 deadline will have no bearing on Revis' thinking, according to sources close to the Jets' star. As one source said, "He's dug in."

    A week ago, Ryan said Revis would be in the starting lineup even if he didn't show up until the eve of the regular-season opener. But he backed off on that, saying he was talking "facetiously." The original statement probably didn't sit well with the front office, which needs all the leverage it can get.

    Revis is seeking to become the highest-paid cornerback in the league, surpassing the Oakland Raiders' Nnamdi Asomugha ($15.1 million average per year).

    There are complex rules that restrict the Jets' ability to offer full guarantees in future years, but they can overcame that obstacle by giving a substantial signing bonus. After all, this is an uncapped year.

    As a contingency plan, the Jets have tweaked their secondary, moving former San Diego Charger Antonio Cromartie to Revis' spot (left cornerback) and opening up the right-corner position to other candidates.

    First-round draft pick Kyle Wilson, projected as the nickelback, is working with the first-team defense. He replaced Dwight Lowery, who, oddly enough, told the coaching staff that Wilson deserved to be in the starter's role.

    "Yes, it surprises me, but he sees that [Wilson] needs the work. He needs the reps," Ryan said. "The kid has rare ability."

    In other news, outside linebacker Jason Taylor left practice with what Ryan described as a "slight" groin pull. Wide receiver Braylon Edwards (sore knee) also was limited. Wide receiver David Clowney returned to camp after missing the weekend due to personal reasons.

    Rich Cimini covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com. Follow him on Twitter.
     
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    So why did the Jets go crazy in free agency? Now it seems like they don't have any wiggle room to sign the best corner in the game.
     
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    Yea, someone ripped me for that one earlier. That was my fault.

    Still, my point stands. Rex's defenses, without the CBs have not brought home the VLT. This was his chance to get the talent he needed. Unfortunately, Woody, Tanny and Revis/Revis' camp are nowhere near close.
     
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    And I don't blame them one bit TG. I still have a feeling that this situation wouldn't have come to this if:1. There were already a new CBA and Cap number in place and 2: The PSL sales came in close to what was forecast.
     
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    The Jets signed Jason Taylor, LT, Brunell, and Coles. That sure was crazy spending! The reason for the hard line stance is because the Jets have several high profile contracts coming up for review and if they open the vault for one, it will set a precedent for others.
     
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    It was originally reported by Jason La Canfora and mentioned multiple times in this thread. Here's the original report:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81966dbe/article/revis-open-to-shortterm-contract-fix-unsure-hell-be-at-camp
     
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    Revis and his crew are going to blink its only a matter of time
     
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    Oh sorry. I'm trying to catch up with all the posts I missed this afternoon
     
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    I'm thinking a deal like that is something that will always be there for Revis to accept...whether that's tomorrow or 2 days before the regular season opener. He's holding out because he wants long term security while knowing that unless he pulls a TO and starts doing sit ups and shit in his driveway in front of the local media the Jets won't pull that deal.
     
  15. Tolan

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    Revis Christ is going all Judas on us.
     
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    Don't count on it.
     
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    Updated: August 9, 2010, 10:11 PM ET
    Earth to Woody: Pay Revis already!
    Jets' owner needs to avoid Dolan-esque mistake and sign his talented corner... now
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    NEW YORK -- Now the Jets have really made it in the Naked City. Now their owner can open his mouth in a faraway corner of New York, a country mile from Broadway, and say something more relevant than anything the Yankees and Red Sox would do over three and a half hours in the Bronx.

    Sinatra was playing in Yankee Stadium after a four-game series ended in a split, ended with the Red Sox holding fast to the remains of their season, and Woody Johnson was swinging the heaviest lumber of the day in Cortland, N.Y., telling reporters and -- by extension -- Darrelle Revis that the cornerback can take his requested raise and stuff it.

    Asked whether he was optimistic Revis would be signed before the start of the season, Johnson said, "The answer is no."


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    Johnson fired a warning shot over Revis' helmet, and he shouldn't have knocked himself out in the process. If he refuses to pay Revis, the owner will be doing something James Dolan dumb.

    Don't do it, Woody. Don't follow Dolan and the Wilpons down a dark road to who knows where.

    Too many New York franchises are being hurt by too many unforced ownership errors, and this is Johnson's chance to pounce. His chance to take the marketplace by the throat by paying his best player and making the Jets strong enough to walk Rex Ryan's talk.

    Dolan made Isiah Thomas his most conspicuous free-agent grab. Fred Wilpon let another season die an unnecessary death by doing nothing before the trade deadline to resuscitate the Mets.

    Johnson shouldn't make this some unholy trinity of metropolitan area rich guys mismanaging their toys. Woody needs to tell Mike Tannenbaum to offer whatever eight-figure salary will secure Revis' signature, and then order the GM to fax in the papers faster than the cornerback can break on a pass in the flat.

    And once Woody receives a contract awaiting his signature, he can summon the spirit of another Johnson, Keyshawn, and bark, "Give me the damn ballpoint."

    "Darrelle is the Jeter of the Jets," Tannenbaum has told one of Revis' agents, Neil Schwartz.

    George Steinbrenner gave the Jeter of the Yankees $189 million way back when, and this winter Steinbrenner's children will offer their shortstop tens of millions in a brand new deal, all of it fully guaranteed.

    "The Jets still have not given us a proposal with one penny in it that's fully guaranteed," Schwartz said by phone. So the holdout rages on, and the agent confirmed Revis will miss the entire 2010 season if the Jets don't come to their senses, and fast.

    "Darrelle will not play under the current contract," Schwartz said. "But he loves the Jets, loves his teammates, loves his head coach, loves New York City. He loves everything about being a Jet, but he's not happy with the contract."

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    Johnson needs to make him happy. His GM met with Revis' agents, Schwartz and Jon Feinsod, at a Roscoe, N.Y. diner Friday, where they haggled a lot more over the contract than they did over the bill. The agents gave Tannenbaum a revised proposal they wanted Johnson to see for himself.

    "We didn't want Mike to interpret it for Mr. Johnson," Schwartz said. "If Mr. Johnson didn't like the proposal, that's fine, but what didn't you like about it? Was it all garbage? ... We gave the Jets a very fair proposal and we hope Mr. Johnson sat and read it and understood that we addressed a lot of his previous concerns in that proposal."

    Revis is scheduled to earn $1 million this season, a complete joke of a wage in a sport that kills off its wounded with alarming ease. Non-guaranteed contracts are discarded as easily as a crushed Gatorade cup, and buyout packages are often smaller than a referee's whistle.

    Yes, Revis signed that contract, one the Jets acknowledge he's outplayed. But Thomas Jones and Alan Faneca and Pete Kendall signed their contracts, too, until the Jets decided they didn't like the way their numbers added up.

    Never mind Leon Washington and the deal he was ready to get until he went and ruined his leg.

    "Look at the Leon situation," Revis told ESPNNewYork.com in June. "They were working on his contract, and he broke his leg and missed the season, and now he has no stability, no comfort zone, no anything."

    Revis had also heard the Derek Jeter line from Jets management, heard how much the organization appreciated his dignity and class.

    "And the thing I'm so frustrated by," he said then, "is they sit here and tell me this to my face. But then they don't want to value me or honor me for that."

    Ryan is already on record predicting that Revis will be a Jet for life, that the cornerback could blow past Joe Willie Namath as the greatest Jet of them all. The coach has set the market with his mouth, and Revis has set the market with his feet and hands.

    But the Jets simply don't want to pay what the market will bear. "My impression is no progress," Johnson said. "That's the way Mike characterized it to me was no movement whatsoever."

    It's time for some movement, and for Johnson to assume the role of Mariano Rivera if Tannenbaum can't close the deal.

    The Jets must confront the cold, hard truth: If Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha has a deal averaging $15.1 million a pop, a superior player such as Revis has every right to ask for a superior wage.

    There's likely a compromise to be reached slightly south of that figure, something like the midpoint between the Jets' Cortland camp and the diner in Roscoe. Woody Johnson needs to find it. And he needs to run a 4.3 forty on the way there.
     
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    Gambling on SB 2010 is the logical conclusion and it would appear it may have bit them in the ass.
     
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    Seems about as reliable as anything else I have read about the negotiations.
     
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