Does he get some clutch hits and help us win? Absolutely it's just few and far between and he does most of his damage when we are up by alot or down by alot. he doen't need a Joe Carter moment, he needs to have a good postseason and help us win. people forgte really quick, remember how tino was bashed around here until he hit that HR in the '98 WS then he was beloved.
Did I say it was ARod's fault? I pointed that out simply b/c people have said we can't win w/o him and here we were winning w/o him and scoring alot runs. you guy act like we never made the playoffs before we got him and that we wouldn't make it again if we didn't have him. The facts are the man has not done his job here. i posted the link to the article below last week but none of you ARod lovers commented on it, why is that? http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/421612p-355938c.html
You don't have to hit it in the post-season to win the fans... Giambi wasn't liked at all until he hit that walk-off grand slam in the stadium vs. the Twins being down 3... To me, ARod earned his pinstripes when he didn't take shit from Bronson Arroyo and put Varitek in a headlock while punching him in the head...He's given an AL MVP, a very good fielder at 3rd base, just a great all-around player...Now, you're measured by championships as a Yankee and he hasn't delivered yet, and he knows that, he understands that, and that he needs a ring for Yankees fans to love him...I get that. But YOU, take it to a champ-esque level with this guy...As if ARod was giving autographs at the stadium, you were next but then he had to go, and since then you've hated him...That's my guess.
That was TEMPRORARY just as ARod's 3 HR game was last year. The fans hated Giambi until he tore it up last year and that was WITH the 2 HRs in Game 7 off pedro. That could be argued it was the turning point of the Sox season as they were floundering and then that got them going. He does not need a ring for me to get off his back, he needs to produce in postseason. Every loss is not his fault but I want to see him come through when we need him most, if it's good enough to win it all then great if not i can live w/ it. Mattingly is revered and never came close to a Championship. I defended ARod his 1st yr, I agve him a pass on the Boston series but until he coms throuhg for us in October I cannot forgive his horrid '05 ALDS. it wasn't that he was just struggling he was atrocious, as bad as can be- he hurt us w/ the glove, w/ the bat and w/ his legs and was the main reason we lost.
Regardless, ARod to me, earned his pinstripes right there...He understood the circumstances and didn't take anything from Bronson Arroyo, GOOD! But don't you keep saying that since he's been here the Yanks haven't won a WS? He was brought here and he has yet to deliver a championship? But now it's all about him hitting in the post-season? Screw that man, I could care less if he hits .098 in the post-season as long as the Yanks win the WS...I don't care what individuals do, just win as a team.
Man, I don't know where to begin with some of what's been said lately. I see you conveniently failed to comment on 3rd&15's response to this, but I agree with him 1000%. How the heck can you put Gagne and Rivera in the same breath? This is comparing apples to oranges. Gagne has had 3 good years compared to 10 of Mo's and it's not like those three makes Mo look awful. Gagne's best season was 55, Mo's 53. That's "far and away better"? Rivera will go down as the best closer EVER to play the game and will have Tome Seaver like percentage votes into the HOF his first year eligible. Gagne would be lucky to get voted in by the Veteran's committee. If the Yankees got Gagne with Mo on the team, it's a no-brainer...Gagne is just a set up guy to Mo. Same with A-Rod. You're trying to compare one the the two best players in the GAME to Jeter, maybe the 3rd, 4th best SS . In their primes, you'd take ARod, Nomar, and Tejada over Jeter any day at SS and move Jeter to 3rd. Jeter should be the guy to move to 2nd/3rd and not be at short just because of a couple of clutch hits. You put the best player at the position, not the sentimental favorite. And you amaze me still wanting to kill A-Rod for that LAA series. Hey, I got news for you, the quintessential clutch hitter, Mr. October himself, Reggie Jackson had some of the WORST divisional series stats that I'd like to forget. I'm sure if you look it up Reggie did everything in the WS not the other playoffs.
Senior Moment. It was in 2003 when Jeter was injured on opening day against the Jays. He returned on May 13th. The Yankees record while Jeter was out of the lineup....25-11 and this was with Erick Almonte and Enrique Wilson filling in. Seems to me the Yankees didnt fall into a tailspin without Jeter. Yankees did end up with 101 wins that year so wouldnt you expect the Yankees record to be worse with Jeter out?
obviously i'd rather have him suck and the yanks win the WS BUT I don't think we can win it at this point unless he plays like an MVP in the postseason. it's not that hard to figure out, I said at gagne's peak and at his peak his #s were BETTER than Mariano's. I'm not syaing he's better but his #s were which is similar to ARod and Jeter, ARod's #s are better but I'd take Jeter every time. That's great but he also had a million great moments in october, so far ARod's claim to fame as a Yankee is he helped us beat the Twins but then fell on his face against Boston and LAA. we were also missing Rivera for a large stretch, i think over the short term we can overcome any injuries but long term Jeter is more important than ARod and marinao is more important than anyone else.
Jeter's more important than A-Rod? BTW: Close and Late, 2004-2006: Jeter: .249 / .352 / .392 (.744) A-Rod: .276 / .392 / .553 (.945)
ZERO RBI against LAA- YES Jeter is more important and close/late this year it's not close. Once again you ignored the article I posted, POM is nice but it's all based on #s and most of those #s are meaningless fantasy #s as he's disappeared when we needed him most: The #s below aren't updated and jeter has come through for us a few times in the last week(in the alst week alone I think he's come through more than ARod has all season). http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/421612p-355938c.html I like the nickname "May-Rod":rofl:
I forgot about that but 6 runs against the Sox isn't insurmountable for them so i'll give him a pass on that and say it could have been meaningful.
It's amazing how a fan of a team can argue against one of his players so much. Quite pathetic. But hey man, that's your choice.
