McCareins - Now we know this was on McCareins – especially since he was throwing the ball to himself all season. I mean what more does a receiver need to be a success in the NFL? We should cut this bum before spring training.
It's a lot easier to bump him down on the depth chart than to cut him. We take a bigger cap hit by cutting him than keeping him. Mark my words, if JMac is cut in 2006 I'll sport a gay pride avatar for a month.
I'm not saying he'll get cut, but just in case: http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=gay+pride+logo&btnG=Search
I didn't intend to pass the research off as my own. I got it off of ESPN Insider and apologize for not being more clear about the source. You can color the QB situation however you want but 16 dropped passes? That's a drop per game and that's not acceptable no matter how you spin it since it's not like we threw the ball 30-35 times a game.
No need to apologize, 28. You made clear at the top of the first post it was an article you saw, then said you were sorry if someone posted it before. Obviously a lot of us didn't see that article and you have a good thread going. Methinks you apologize too much. You better not write saying you're sorry about that.
It's good to finally have some statistical backup for the perception so many of us had that JMac was a running canker sore for the Jets' passing offense. ] The JMac and Doug Jolley boosters among us have their reasons, I guess, but I can't really understand them. Chad has a weak arm, Vinnie erratic, and Bollinger was a de facto rookie, but I remember JMac simply muffing passes a lot of the time.
No thank you. I wouldn't know the first thing about Gay pride. But knock yourself out, Badger. Anyway, if Mangini keeps McCareins, it'll only be because: (a) he'd cost us too much to simply cut outright. (b) for now we can't find anyone better to occupy the depth chart. (c) he marginally remains despite his weaknesses because of his work ethic and he's a "Mangini-type" (good "intangibles") player, or (d) all of the above. He certainly won't remain with us for his consistent play-making ability. He gets no separation, he has a lot of trouble with the footsteps he hears and he absolutely will NOT extend or push himself to the edge to make the "impossible" reception. He's the exact anti-Chrebet. As I said before, I watched this guy with my own eyes at four 2-a-days last summer at TC. I was impressed as hell with his work ethic and conditioning. His hands were great during practice and he made all the catches. He just looked excellent... a real weapon. I even remember commenting that Coles was going to be more productive now too, because McCareins was such a threat that they'd have to keep an eye on both because the pair would be so dangerous on the field together. Then the season started and it was like I was watching a completely different person out there. I can't tell you what his problem is, but when the game is on the line, he complete dismantles. He's like the exact opposite of Chrebet, who excelled when it was all on the line. This guy can't handle the pressure in a real game and especially when his next catch is all-important. Blame the QB situation all you want fellas, for some reason this guy can't make the important game-breaking catches.
Um guys, If you read the entire article you'd see that this was copied w/credit Unless the poster is KC Joyner, the football scientist.
Yeah, really. The problem was some of the people in this thread couldn't read and it was annoying me. To them I essentially said, don't pester NYJets28, go pester K.C. Joyner.
Think of how many passes went the way of Marvin Harrison and the number of passes that went the way of Justin McDroppins.
That was my point....16 dropped passes when you are only targeted 4-6 times a game? I'm sure hoping Cotchery can fill some of this void...the guy has always seemed money to me.
People on this board have very short memories. McCareins was the best receiver in the team in 2004 by far, while Moss was dropping everything in sight and running out of bounds on every punt return. Then Moss explodes in 2005 with a different team, QB and system. Let's give McCareins another year with a real (hopefully) NFL QB and a new coach before we write him off. Think of all the Jets that had their worst season last year - Pennington, Martin, Jolley, Ellis, etc. Do we write them all off?
Please. We don't make the playoffs or beat San Diego in the playoffs without Santana. SM is a gamebreaker/game changer Justin McCareins is not.
Without Justin McCareins, Santana Moss doesn't catch a ball versus San Diego in the playoffs. Santana was one of the biggest wussies to ever put on a Jets uniform, I don't care what he's doing in Washington.
That doesn't change the fact that without Santana Moss the Jets don't make the playoffs or beat San Diego in the WC round in 2004. He made HUGE game turning plays for the Jets. Santana "dropped everything in sight?" That's bull.
The various offensive systems combined with a weak arm QB has screwed our WRs over the years. I'm not saying McCariens doesn't suck, the QB throwing him the ball has really nothing to do with it as long as it's a catchable ball (obviously if the ball is thrown too low he's going to have trouble catching the ball). I'm giving him a pass for last year though, it's not like the coaching staff was helping the situtation either, with Herm quiting on the team and all. Perhaps Mangini's style of coaching will motiviate him to get on the ball.
I agree. I think McCareins was banged up last season. Funny that he had his best year with the Jets as a split end with a good QB situation. The following year he moves back to his natural flanker position, which he played in Tennessee, and with a horrible QB situation he sucked.
MCareins short armed everything, and NEVER got his lil uni dirty going after a pass. He wasn't a WR, he was a basketball hoop. He gave up on catchable balls too. This stuff doesn't even show up in the dropped pass info.... so not only did he have nearly the worst hands in the league, he was about the worst WR in the entire NFL. Mangini won't let him get away with the same lack of effort getting to the ball this year. McCareins will be on a very short leash. I think he'll be the 3rd or 4th WR, maybe even the fifth WR on the roster by week 4.
