Anything is "possible". However the fact is it's quite unlikely. As I said yesterday I'm not a huge pyth record believer but I think it's appropriate for this discussion. The Yankees had an "expected" record of 90-72 based on their RS/RA last year, if you take 65 runs off that total the expected record drops to 85-77. The fact that the Yankees were +5 over their expected record shows that they were either lucky or good in close games, whatever you want to believe. Saying that the Yankees could shave 65 runs off their total and they would be even luckier/better in close games is a dubious claim, IMO.
A 4-1 game against the Red Sox in Fenway is more like a 2-1 game against anyone else. Not to mention the Yankees lose that game if he doesn't hit that HR.
You're right, there's about a .1 percent chance. :rofl2: By saying the Yankees still win the same number of games by taking away 65 runs, you're assuming that nearly every single run that Brosius scores either ties the game or gives his team the lead. You're also assuming that nearly every single run A-Rod scores doesn't tie the game, or give them the lead. Your argument is now just coming down to semantics. Maybe it's not completely 100% impossible, but the chances of it ever happening, ever, are less that 1%.
Its also assuming that every single one of those 65 "extra' runs comes off in games that are blowouts either way which wouldnt necessarily happen.
.330 8 HR 28 RBI...OPS of over 1000...In May. On pace for 40+ HR's and 130+ RBI's... With some clutch hits as well. Put your Hater-Blocker on junc
It's May. It doesn't count. By the way, Scott Brosius would have had an OPS of 2.000... and he would've found Osama Bin Laden... while wearing a blindfold.
"some" clutch hits, one every 2 weeks doesn't cut it. I'll take 10 less HRs and 20 less RBI if when he does get them they are in big spots. he's been a little better of late, still not where he needs to be but hopefully getting there.
Arod is upsetting but hopefully he can turn it around this season and actually show up in the playoffs... Im glad to see the yankees winning without alot of our big bats... Woah imagine if we were healthy..
Lifetime Yankee fan here. I have to laugh at this A-Rod hating and comparing him to Scott "Clutch" Brosius and that he's the reason for all the Yankee woes for not winning the WS the past six years. Until A-Rod hits one of those effin Jor Carter type WS homers some people will never get off his back. Let's look at A-Rod's numbers versus some "clutch" Yankees" Brosius Lifetime numbers: 141 HR 531RBI .257 AVG. .323 OBP .422 SLG Derek Jeter career numbers: 169 HR 763 RBI .314 AVG .386 OBP .461 SLG A-Rod Career 429 HR 1226 RBI .307 AVG. .385 OBP .577 SLG All numbers over each 11-12 year career span. Now, even though Brosius and Jeter COMBINED have less HR and RBI than A-Rod, they each supposedly had more meaningful hits than A-Rod? None of A-Rod's hits', HR, or RBIs were clutch? None won a game or put one out of reach? Oh, but we're talking Post Season, I guess which is much more important. Okay, let's look at career post season numbers: Brosius: 58 Games 8HR 30 RBI .245 AVG. .278 OBP .418 SLG Jeter: 115 Games 16HR 47 RBI .307 AVG. .379 OBP .463 SLG A-Rod 31 Games 6HR 16 RBI .305 AVG. .393 OBP .534 SLG Doesn't seem like A-Rod's post season numbers are too shabby to me. But it seems Junc and the media would like to trade him because of his performance against the Angels alone. Now I don't have a tenth of the memory Junc has and living out of state I don't get to see all these A-Rod failures, but I do remember this. How about A-Rod in 2000 against the Yankees? Jesus, in Game 1 he hit that homer that had another zip code on it if it didn't hit that left field foul pole! I forget who he hit it off of but he crushed that thing! Since that was a 2-0 Seattle win does that count for clutch? If his teammates did ANYTHING during that series we would have never won it with the way he was hitting. What else did he do that series? Just 2HR, 5 RBI batted .409, .480 OBP and a .773 SLG. Looked like a real slouch there, huh? I just find it hard to believe that a future, first ballot HOF'er and reigning MVP has had no meaningful hits. He's been, at the least, the 2nd best ballplayer in ALL of baseball throughout his career! One could argue that Jeter, who's paid just a few million shy of him, has never even been the 2nd best player at his position throughout his career. Let's not forget, the best SS in the game, moved to third so as not to hurt the fragile ego of maybe the 4th best SS in the game at the time. What the hell is a clutch hit anyway? Is it even measurable? Our reason for not winning a WS is not because of A-Rod I know that. Same old A-Rod? 31 other GM's would LOVE to have that same old A-Rod over Jeter and Brosius. Ah, anyway, I still enjoy reading this thread and always look forward to Junc's updates on A-Rod's failures. :smile:
You can give me #s all you want, #s don't tell the whole story. It's when those #s are eraned, since ARod's been a Yankee he had 1 good series against the twins while flopping against Boston and was a complete disgrace against Anaheim last year. He had some good postseasons w/ Seattle but so far he hasn't here and that's what counts. Brosius may not have hit .340 in the postseason but he delivered in big spots more often than not which cannot be said for ARod.
Yep, like if you took 65 runs away from the Yankees last year, they win as many, maybe even MORE games. Because, as we all know, every single run that Scott Brosius scores gives the Yankees the lead. :rofl2: Crapshooter, I recommend you just continue reading, don't get involved. If there's one thing on this board that Yankees and Mets fans can agree on, it's that junc is, shall we say, "out there".
Well just to throw a little fuel on the fire.... if the yanks record and Jeter's stats didn't mean anything in May of last year why should Arods stats in May of this year mean anything?
I never said they didn't mean anything. Games in May are just as important as games in September. When it came to Jeter's bad start in 2004, and the Yankees bad record to start last year, I knew that both were better than they were showing. With A-Rod, he's been one of the best hitters in baseball in May, like he should be. But they both mean something, obviously.
ARod is the greatest! every los is Torre's fault! What has Joe ever done for us while Aklex has come through time after time:rofl: If by out there you mean I know what I'm talking about then yeah I'd agree most folks would think that of me. You are satisfied w/ losing and that's ok, the World needs people like that but I want to win and want my best players to contribute to that and to come through more often than not. What you fail to comprehend is that b/c ARod is a top player in the game standards are much higher for him than normal players. It's like if you take 2 kids, 1 is a straight A student and never gets B's while the other is a C student who never gets B's. They both bring their report Card home to their parents and both get B's. Well the straight A student's parents will be upset b/c he set a high standard while the C student's parents will buy him a new car they are so thrilled. I don't care about stats, I care about how those stats are accumulated. it's meaningless to hit a HR in the 9th down 9-1. I want more HR's like the one that broke the tie in the 7th a few weeks ago.
Don't give you numbers?!! Really, Junc, that's pretty funny coming from a guy who continually used the infamous refrain, "Herm Edwards took us to the playoffs 3 out of 5 years" and other references to his stats when defending your position for him with other members of this forum throughout the football season. I'll agree his .130 something average was pretty disappointing for a player of his caliber, but didn't our pitching have a lot to do with blowing that series? Christ, Bengie Molina, of all people, had a feast on it. You crucify A-Rod for the LAA series? Do you hold Jeter to the same standard for his 04 Boston Series? Where was Jeter in our WS loss to the D-Backs? Like the other poster suggested I'll continue to read this thread. It's hysterical. Keep me posted on those A-Rod failures Junc. Like I said, I live out of state and see so few games now. Although, I did happen to catch A-Rod throwing on the mound last night in the 9th against the Tigers on ESPN. :wink:
But A-rod did go 0-3 with 2 k's yesterday, so it was his fault. You can just toss out the 2 walks he got and the run he scored though. :wink:
LOL, I really was expecting Junc to shove that up my rectum first. Thanks Buttle. Yes, it was also A-Rod's fault he didn't hit a 3-run HR somewhere after Giambi's shot to put the game out of reach for us.
WTF!? No wonder you loved Herm. Next thing you'll tell me is that Scott Brosius is a bowling ball full of butcher knives. :rofl:
