CB isn't the D, hes one player who can and will be replaced, if he wants to be a greedy asshole, then he needs to do his best 'Gecko' and fuck off now. Rex Ryan will not miss a beat if we lose Revis, yes it will screw some of his plans up, but nothing we can't handle. I'm intrigued, Revis leaves us and goes where? And will he continue to be as good outside of a Rex D?
sorry but no way Rex d makes revis. Sorry Rex can't get credit for telling revis get on there best wr and do ur thing
He had a great year, no doubt, but do you really think every year will be that good? He proved he can cover anybody so now the defensive coordinators will change how they attack them. Manning threw for almost 400 yards. Everybody will be looking at that film before they play the Jets.
Good point, funny thing most of the posters here believe in giving $16 million a year to a defensive player who rarely touches the ball and can be avoided. Where they do that at? .... Oh Oakland..........and maybe New York?
Granted Revis is a talent, a great talent. But put him in a mediocre D and he'll rue the day he left us, if that happens. And we will move on.
ESPN is eating this story up. I watched ESPN all day today (fractured hip last week) and besides the soccer there was a litte segment on each show about Revis. They all praised him and said "pay the man his money, hes only making 1 million this year". They never brought up his current contract which was front loaded, just pissed me off. Props to Wilbon and Kornheiser though they destroyed Revis for "completely embarssing" his coach. Which I agree with totally
This was on the yahoo front page on it website. It was by MJD, guys a complete moron and you can see by the article he doesnt know much about football Stud New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis(notes) did show up for practice Tuesday, which is good. While at practice, though, Revis decided he'd rather not participate in certain plays, and he took a seat and watched other people sweat. What prompted this poor behavior from Revis? A poor contract offer from the Jets. Revis said the Jets' latest contract offer to him is an "insult" because it included absolutely no guaranteed money, and if true, yeah, that's a good reason to plop yourself down on a bench in the middle of practice. No guaranteed money? For the top cornerback, probably the top defensive player, and maybe the best player, period, in the NFL? That's crazier than JaMarcus Russell(notes) making the Hall of Fame. Said Revis, according to the Associated Press: "It was something just to let them know I can play, and I cannot play. That's what it is." More power to you, sir. Honestly, I just don't know what the Jets are trying to do here. Sure, you start every contract negotiation with a lowball offer, the player starts with a big number, and ideally, you can meet somewhere in the middle. He is due to make $1 million in the fourth season of his six-year rookie deal, and wants to be the league’s highest-paid cornerback. But zero dollars guaranteed? Why? The Jets, a lot of people feel, are poised for a run at the Super Bowl. Revis is a key part of that. You're going to alienate him, for what reason exactly? It's like going into a pawn shop, seeing a $5,000 watch you want, and saying, "Rick, I'd like that watch, but instead of giving you $5,000 for it, how about I just poke the Old Man in the eye, you give me $20, and then I take the watch?" It's just not a sound negotiating tactic. Hopefully, this all gets sorted out before it becomes a real problem for the Jets. Zero in guarantees for Darrelle Revis? Come on now.
this dramas not good , especially with hbo knocking at our door in a few months with cameras around all the time. Ive been a jet fan all my life, recently put down money to get a PSL, ive never been more excited to be a fan of this team. For this to be happening is just so dissapointing. We have money, revis is the best. pay him, thats the way things are done today in this league.
I know you are not doing intentionally...but Im not saying I agree with my statement. Whoever is responsible..be it the Jets...the agents for certain players...the seed has been planted. Players perception: My point is pretty simple. The Jets have done a poor PR job with certain players. For every Rhodes or Cotchery you point out...the Jet players would look to a Kendall, Baker, Washington, Jones, Dearth, Feeley, Faneca and for now Dbrick, Mangold, Harris and of course our infamous new baby boy...Revis. While all of those players have different issues and reasons for not being on the Jets beside the fab 4 for now...they all have one thing in common. They were replaced by equal or lesser quality and less money. Players perception This team, on paper, takes two steps forward and one step backward in unusual ways. They make huge trades for Cromartie and Holmes and decide to let go of their steady snapper and pretty sure footed kicker. They let go of their leading rusher and replace him with an over the hill running back. They let Kendall go and almost got their qb's killed. They let Faneca go in an uncapped year to go with a rookie. Players perception Now...for the last time....I ALMOST AGREE WITH EVERY MOVE besides the kicker and snapper. My point is simply perception. If I were a Jet player...I would look at their past history and be very skeptical of their intentions. I do agree with your concept. I just think you are failing to look at it through the players eyes..the guys that need to put their signature on the contracts. Guys like Mangold who are questioning the Jets loyalty. While their agents are whispering to them...the players are watching all of the above go down. Its not their agents as far as Im concerned.
It sounds like we basically agree on the situation at the moment. My take is the Jets should push back on the public perception that they have somehow been worse than the average NFL team at taking care of their players. The facts are that the perception that is out there is worse than the reality by quite a bit. The other thing that is clear is that the Jets can't give all of their players top of the market contracts and remain competitive over any period of time. They could make things happy and cozy this year for Revis and the other key players they have to deal with and then watch it all fall apart when the cap makes its return in 2011 or 2012 at the outside. I firmly believe that Revis and his agents are forcing the issue right now because their leverage is actually never going to be higher at a time when the Jet's ability to comply is as high as it is right now. In a capped year the Jets would just be saying no to an Asomugha-type deal and they'd be doing it publicly. They'd be asking Revis and his agents who they were supposed to cut in order to give him the mega-deal and they'd be spinning the PR along the lines that it was impossible for them to give him this deal and still be highly competitive. In a couple of years Revis will have more actual leverage, but you can't squeeze blood from a stone and the Jet's cap situation will likely preclude them from signing him to a huge deal unless it's back-loaded with very high salaries the Jets will never pay. I think this isn't going to end well for us at this point. Barring a return to sanity by Revis and his agents or Tannenbaum somehow managing to get them to accept a restructuring with money coming forward to this season I just don't see the Jets and Revis going into the season happy and I know they can't afford a grumbling locker room if they want to compete for a Super Bowl this season. That's going to mean that Tannenbaum's hand is forced elsewhere, like on a David Harris contract renegotiation and probably a Nick Mangold extension, and then regrettably it is probably going to mean Revis is traded near the end of camp for a deal that either brings a pass rusher and a draft pick or a cornerback and a couple of picks. The Jets will say (truly) that they just couldn't afford to do an Asomugha type deal and Revis would not settle for anything less. The locker room will still not be thrilled but if Cromartie and Wilson look good as a team they won't be grumbling either, assuming the Jets have handled a couple of other matters in a way that benefited players that were deserving. David Harris needs to get a new deal. He's a key in the defense, and he's never made big money, and he's going to be an RFA next year which means somebody else will get to set the market for him if he goes, and that market will almost certainly be higher than what the Jets can sign him too now.
Because the JETS are a cheap fuking organization who NEVER EVER pay their young talented players. They let them walk or trade them away, Every fukin time and I'm sick of it. If Revis goes, between this and the PSL's I am going to be seriously cutting off all of my JETS purchases. Along with tix I buy JETS stuff every year. I guarantee I will not buy anything JETS for a long time , if ever. Sure, big deal no hurt to them but you know what, I'll feel better.
Chad Pennington (2005), Bryan Thomas (2006) Jerrico Cotchery (2007), Kerry Rhodes (2008), Sione Pouha (2008) and Brandon Moore (2009) are all players homegrown and developed who the Jets signed to good extensions given their talents when the time came to upgrade their contracts. You can't give everybody a contract to their liking and still pay for free agents and incoming trades like Ty Law, Laveranues Coles, Thomas Jones, Alan Faneca, Brett Favre, Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace, Damien Woody, Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard. The Jets have done about as good by their players as anybody else over the last 5 years and they have done as good in terms of importing talent from outside the organization (that's for us, the fans) over the last 3 or 4 years also. Anybody who says the Jets are cheapskates who never pay their players is arguing against the record at this point.
Jay, You've been banging this table for a while now. "Player perception." But you're always quick to follow with "I certainly don't agree, but the players..." Either you agree that the Jets are doing sound business, or you don't. You can't write off your half-opinion with "...but the retarded players are going to be concerned!" The Jets have had poor dealings with hardball agents. If your name is Keels or Schwartz, and you're throwing hardballs, they're going to be thrown right back at you. Fuck player perception. If ever Mike Tannenbaum steps to the podium and announces "we've signed a core player to a larger-than-deserved contract so that we can soothe player perception of our front office," I will vomit and then write a letter to to Woody Johnson demanding Tanny's resignation. Do you know how many players right now are thinking, "Shit, why did I have to be drafted by the goddamn Jets?" My guess is zero. If you want to talk about player perception, I bet there are about two or three hundred professional players out there right now who are thinking, "Goddamn, I wish I had been drafted by the Jets."
The business side of football sucks, and this is all posturing, but there is no way Revis gets $16 million at this point (w/3 years left on his contract), nor should he...he can cry all he wants about respect, but he got a great rookie contract and is under contract for 3 more years...not 1 year, not even 2 years...he needs to come back down to planet earth before he costs this team a championship... Damn you crazy Al for causing this...
Seriously? None of those players other than Penny are "Big Contract" players. I'm talking about players who were about to get good $$$ because they were young stars on the rise. Randy Thomas Lamont Jordan Jonathan Vilma James Farrior Victor Green Chad Pennington Jason Ferguson Santana Moss I know I'm missing a few but give me 1 JETS drafted player who was paid as a top 1-5 player @ their position. Other than Penny, All the players I named were considered top 5 @ their position @ the time of their contracts. We Kept NONE.
The only players on that list that I agree the Jets should have signed are Randy Thomas (not because he was elite but because they left Chad unprotected since they had no plan B on the roster), James Farrior (who went because he was a 3-4 player and the Jets were switching to a 4-3 defense) and Jason Ferguson (who was neither young nor elite but was a damn good NT in either a 3-4 or a 4-3 and you don't let those guys go once you have them.) Lamont Jordan, Victor Green and Santana Moss were never considered to be top 5 players at their position at any point in their careers, let alone when the Jets let go of them. Thomas was arguably a top 5 right guard but he was also arguably a top 10 right guard. Thomas and Jordan were both paid by their new teams as though they were top 5 but they never reached that plateau. As to top 5, Kerry Rhodes contract was behind Bob Sanders and Ed Reed when he signed it. It was the third most lucrative contract in overall money for a safety in NFL history at the time it was signed. Troy Polamalu's deal was more per season but less overall money.
