Again, the little dig about the Jets not winning a Super Bowl in so long. Really, what have the Dolphins won in the last thirty years? What? And no one on here called Sanchez "MR CLUTCH". You just make shit up.
Fiedler worried me more than any QB they've had since Marino until they got Pennington. Fiedler wasn't great but he was smart and mobile enough to be a pain in the ass, and he got them to the playoffs a couple of times or at least close, I think. Pennington is easily the best QB they've had since Marino including to this point Henne.
Let's see here now, thirty years puts us back to 1980. What have the Dolphins done. - 15 Playoff appearances - 8 Division titles - 4 AFC Championship games (winning 2) - 2 Superbowl appearances - 251 wins (not counting the post season) - Only 4 seasons finishing with under .500 record over that span. (The Jets have 13 seasons finishing under .500 over the same span!)
And that equals how many Super Bowl wins again? Really? No one remembers who won the division. People remember teams winning Super Bowls.
I love that the period of time you just talked about covers an era of one of the GREATEST QB'S OF ALL TIME and they don't have a ring to show for it. Of course they were going to be somewhat successful they had an all-time great QB. The Miami Dolphins under Marino were kind of like the New York Knicks of the 90's. Good to great teams that never got it done.
Without winning the Super Bowl, history can be contorted any which way. We beat you guys something like 10 games in a row from 1998-2002 and in this decade have pretty well still handled Miami except for last season and a couple of other random games. See? So what? Miami last won in the Super Bowl 1973, not that much different from 1968 if you ask me.
Dude, nobody's making the Dolphins out to be the Yankees of football. Relax. Just for you Hemi. Although it's only a folder and a trip down memory lane away.
That's a good comparison, the Knicks kept running into Jordan and the one year Hakeem, while Miami failed against all different teams.
10 games in a row?? The Jets have never beaten the Dolphins 10 games in a row. You might want to check your stats before you just open your mouth with BS. I think you're talking about their 8 game winning streak from '98-'01. Which the Dolphins had won 7 out of 8 just before that streak began from '94-'97. And you make it sound like the Dolphins have never had a 7 game winning streak against the Jets. :beer: You take out Miami's first 4 years of existence in the 60's, and they actually have a winning record against the Jets since.
Yeah, just take it out because it doesn't suit your argument. Good plan. Let's just take out those Kotite years in the mid 90s while we're at it. You're right, it was 9 out of 10, I forgot you guys won the first game in 2002, then shit the bed royally in the last 5 minutes of the season at New England and allowed us to win the division. Wow, I was way off, shouldn't have opened my mouth. :smile:
I love that you said that only because the whole time I was watching the Reggie Miller 30 for 30 (and don't get me wrong it was still extremely well done and entertaining) I was scratching my head and saying wait a minute wasn't Jordan the main nemesis of the Garden faithful? Marino ran into Montana in a super bowl and Jim Kelly and the Bills a couple of times in the AFC playoffs. And he could never get over the hump. THOSE are the teams I remember as being elite. Hell you'd have to say the Giants were better in that era, they won two super bowls. In Marino's era I could name 5 teams over the course of his career that were better then those Phins just because they have a ring or multiple sb appearances to prove it (redskins, giants, cowboys, bills, broncos) So congratulations Dolphins you had one of the greatest players (and biggest douchers) to put on a uniform and all you got was one super bowl appearance. And what were the Jets doing? This is the late 80's early to mid 90's we're talking about, any Jets fan can admit they were doing nothing but handicapping themselves with bad coaching hires (Walton, Coslet, Carroll, KOTITE) and either over the hill free agents or bust draft choices.
Dolphin fans do act like they are the Yankees of football. Miami fans spout off the "winning seasons" as if that means anything. You have a better history than us but the bottom line is you have just one more SB title and all 3(our 1 and your 2) happened over 36 years ago. We have a better recent, more relevant history including making the title game last year- a game you haven't reached since 1992.
He had a great first year but the media and fans put way too much stock into a QB'S first season....The media was saying the same stuff about Trent Edwards after his rookie year and the 5-1 start in 08. Now he's looked at as a laughing stock of the league. Henne has 2 RB'S that are over 30 and are in the declining stage of their careers. And outside of Brandon Marshall they really dont have a clearcut #2 receiver, Hartline showed potential last year though. Sophmore slump for Henne! :fishsucksmiley:
In my opinion he was, because for one thing the Knicks never beat Jordan, only the Bulls in 1994 without him, and Jordan won two or three rings that could have been ours otherwise. For all Reggie's theatrics, the Knicks beat Indiana more often than not when playing with a full deck (ie healthy Ewing) and Reggie never won a title either. His greatest performance, Game 5 of the 1994 East finals, ended up with the Knicks winning in 7 on a Ewing dunk, but nobody likes to remember that part.
Lol interesting turn this thread took for me at least. Good because I hate the Dolphins and because of some faggety fruity beat writer who writes like he got his degree from the University of Phoenix they are now the bain of tgg offseason existance. Go on faghaven for a laugh, otherwise trying to have a rational conversation with a good 90 percent of these people is impossible. It's not as bad as the 98 percent of New England or 95 percent of Philly you can't have a conversation with, but those people for better or worse also care about their teams (New England of course only if theyre succeeding. Bandwagon chowderheads they are.) I remember that 94 series very well. It's the one thing I have as far as a retort when Knicks fans throw the favorable superstar calls Jordan got in any Bulls fans face. I remember that game 7 against the Pacers too, I honestly thought after that game they were going to romp on the Rockets. Damnitt IS even talking about these early to mid-90's teams makes me wish for the old days in the NBA when the Knicks, Bulls, Pacers, Rockets, Sonic and Jazz were the upper echelon. As big as a rival as the NYK were to the Bulls, and as ugly as some of the games they played from an aesthetic standpoint were, that team was the most physical, kick the shit out of you basketball team I've ever seen (I was too young to see any of the Detroit teams.) If this year's Boston team who's clearly the most physical team in the game right now had to play them in a series they'd shit their pants at the first site of a frontcourt of Ewing, Oakley, Smith and Mason.
No, but you post those stats as if they meant multiple championships. Two teams with little titles, it is that simple. The Dolphins are no better than the Jets at this point, two franchises with no rings for many, many years. But go ahead and enjoy those division titles. The Jets had a few two, but you don't see much mention of them around here.
Those series got so heated, I think 1994 without Jordan had the most twists and turns. The Derek Harper-JoJo English fight caused Harper to get suspended and Greg Anthony to start, Pippen sitting out the 1.8 seconds of Game 3 and Kukoc hitting the game winner, the Hubert Davis call in Game 5, the Pippen dunk over Ewing in Game 6 and for a Knicks fan that Game 7 was epic, even without Jordan to finally beat Phil Jackson and the rest of those guys, wow. After the Knicks won Game 1 at Houston I thought they were going to win the series, even going back to Houston up 3-2 after the OJ-chase game. What a year that was--the Knicks went 7 with Chicago, Indiana and Houston all right in a row at the same time the Rangers went 7 with the Devils and Vancouver for the Stanley Cup. I hate the Rangers but they were part of what was going on, the Devils, too. PS--I know we're off topic but fuck Chad Henne and the Dolphins.
