Who don't I want in the first round? These guys... Golden Tate- A slot receiver in the first round? He'd be the fourth option for the passing game in an offense built around the run. They want a slot guy? Then take a kid in the 4th or 5th round that fills the role, and won't be a massive waste when he only gets 20 or so catches next year. They want a future #1 wideout? Take Demaryius Thomas or wait until next year's first round. Maurkice Pouncey- I get it, he can play Center AND Guard. Crazy. If the Jets are going to get an offensive lineman early in the draft, they should be looking for a tackle that's a good fit for the right side, but could possibly play LT in a pinch. Nick Mangold needs a backup, sure, but if the choice is a player that can play Center or a player that can play LT, it's not close. Plus, the Jets actually seem to like Matt Slauson, yet they have nothing at tackle. Jermaine Gresham- I think PA gets it by now, but just in case anyone's actually intrigued. They shouldn't be picking a TE in this draft, period, not with only six picks. Kyle Wilson/Devin McCourty- Trading that 3rd rounder next year for Cromartie slammed the door shut. As great as getting more depth would be, Lowery is a very good 3rd cornerback who has the ability to drop and play zone in their many different interior coverage schemes. They aren't spending a first round pick on a player who won't play at all, not when possessing a staff that's been very good at developing DBs. Nate Allen- Not in the first round. Trade down, then fine, I'll take him because he seems like a good fit, and is a quality player. BUT, Safety is the one position that a team should never have to spend a first round pick on. If there's a special talent, fine, but starting to pro bowl caliber players can be found much later by teams drafting intelligently for their system. Taylor Mays- Cmon, this one's pretty easy. Everything I just said about Nate, but add on the fact that he's a massive project, and perhaps may not even be a safety. Jerry Hughes- A couple drills at the combine and people say he's ready to roll as a linebacker? Really? He's not as bad as the hate some have for him, but he's really all that special either. Solid, not spectacular. There's a short list of 34 OLBs that I would want in Rd 1, and he's not on it.
I wouldn't mind Mo Pouncey or Kyle Wilson... I agree that cornerback has slid down on our list of needs now, but Wilson would definitely unseat Lowery as the nickel corner and he has added value as a punt returner. 1. Jerry Hughes 2. Taylor Mays 3. Anthony Davis 4. Jermaine Gresham
I get that Wilson is better than Lowery, but right now there's just no reason to make that move. If Lowery was bad, then sure, but he's a quality nickel player who still has potential, and should not be replaced. I wouldn't mind taking a corner later to battle for the job, but I don't need that guy to be my first rounder.
The problem is that you're looking at Tate's potential only this season. Hey may be the 3rd or 4th option this year, but think about his future. When this team drafted Santana Moss, he was a slot receiver and a PR for us....yet look what kind of player he developed into. You can say Tate won't be worth a 1st rounder with his contributions this season, but what rookie really is? He is well worth the pick at #29, and I would be stoked if he is the pick.
GH, I like Hughes a lot more than you and E and WW85, but that's okay, nothing wrong with a little honest disagreement I don't love Mays and he's not on my short list, but I wouldn't hate the pick if it turns out to be him Tate I go back and forth on and I do see where he can be a dangerous playmaker, but quite a few players who have a chance to slide to 29 would have to be off the board before I took Tate The rest of your list I wholeheartedly agree with, I don't want any of those guys at 29 either
I can't believe I forgot about good ole Toast Robinson...probably because I've never considered him a first rounder.
Does Tate have the ability to be like Percy Harvin or Reggie Bush? Where he can be in the slot one play and in the back field with brad smith and LT in the wildcat the next.
All of your points seem valid except McCourty/Wilson. You could say the same thing drafting Iupati...he's not going to start right away. I wouldn't pass on Wilson or McCourty. This thread is interesting because when you eliminate most of the players you wouldn't draft in Rd 1, the cupboard is almost bare. Brandon Graham, Mike Iupati, Sergio Kindle will probably be gone. Odrick, Tate or Pouncey is about the only option. I said this before...the Jets are in a bad position at #29 to get that specific player that is a good fit. Trading down is the best option!!! Trading up to get Graham may be in Tanny's plans. Brandon Graham is the only player I'd trade up to draft in rd 1. If we can't trade down it's BPA...McCourty, Tate, Pouncey or Odrick. All 4 probably wouldn't be starters right away. I'm not sold Cromartie is the long term answer for the Jets...w'ell see. You never have enough good corners.
In Rex's scheme, corners are essential for the D to work. They are almost more important than the front 3 for his scheme.
I agree 100% I know alot of people want us to draft a couple of D-Lineman. Our DLine is old and I agree we need another young up and coming DE. Rex just doesn't dress may DLinemen. Who we draft on the line better be very versatile.....like Ngata We really need another outstandng corner in Rex's defense, if we could get McCourty, I'd be thrilled. Sorry to say guys...it's going to BPA at #29...Corner, WR, DE, O-line, OLB......no one is going to start immediately.
this Jets team has starters at almost every position and too much money tied up in certain positions for this years 1st rounder to start right away. This is going to be a different year for a Jets 1st round pick and for us. All of Tannys 1st rounders have seen plenty of action in their 1st year minus the Ghost. This year that's not going to be the case. Only Earl Thomas falling to 29 is the only way a draft prospect is starting right away.
1.Taylor Mays (maybe if I were drafting for a team in Madden, but alas, this is reality. this guy could possibly be the gholston of safeties once he hits the NFL. especially without a good coaching staff) 2.Patrick Robinson (its sad that a couple years ago the talk was shutdown corner for this kid, but I dunno how many times in college I saw him take himself out of position to make plays. that and he just had horrible field awareness) 3.Jerry Hughes (Eric Norwood should be getting more praise and its ridiculous.) 4.Jermaine Gresham (too many holes to take a TE early. the only positions id go for that would be considered a "luxury" by most, would be Mathews in the first or Gerhart in the second) 5.Arelious Benn (the only WR we could grab in the first without me being a little irritated not going elsewhere would be Tate. think hes the safest WR pick in the draft. Benn, high ceiling but he can find that somewhere else. the fact ive seen people suggest this or this come up in other mock drafts almost made me laugh. then again so did Illinois QB play last year.)
Not only that... But, I feel like the Jets overall are ok with a lot of turnover and keeping the well primed.... If we got a CB that showed a lot of potential this season, it would give the Jets a lot of leverage next year and beyond when it comes time to work out deals with Revis and Cromartie, possibly with one of them hitting the road. If Cro plays lights out, I'm not sure we can afford both Revis and Cro - We Better have some depth... Heck, we need depth anyway.
You keep Revis then. He is not only the best CB in the league but his character is unmatched. Cro is replaceable, even though the jets gave up a pick for him.
Pretty much this. I'll leave Tate off of my list because I really don't see Braylon Edwards being around for much longer than next season.
If the Jets are drafting a player for the future, as I had mentioned, they should draft a Demaryius Thomas. Is he a slot WR? No, but I'd absolutely rather have him as the 4th option to develop into a #1 than Golden Tate. Plus if they used him in 3 WR sets they'd probably just move Cotch inside. Not saying Tate's a bad receiver, but I think that Thomas has All Pro potential, and it would be foolish to pass on him if they wanted a WR that bad. Or, they could take a slot WR much later in the draft, and worry about getting that franchise guy next year, in a potentially dominant WR class. Iupati wouldn't start, but he'd probably end up as the top backup at three of the five OL positions. And I realize that a lot of the players I eliminate limit the options, which is why I'm still on board with the trade down. I'm warming to Odrick, but it seems almost like a waste to take a 34 end in the first round with what lower round guys have done on Rex's DLs. He had Ngata, sure, but alsp Kelly Gregg and Dwan Edwards. We have our money DL in Jenkins, and solid, hard working players next to him have been more than effective.That said, I wouldn't mind getting a future NT that can play end, because it'd give us insurance in case we lose Jenkins loses a big chunk of time again.
That is a pretty profound statement, unless I dont understand it fully I agree with the post entirely, I really like that you consider value and need along with talent, value and need are equally important factors in deciding draft picks. From a player perspective I completely agree with all of those guys except Tate, he is a really special talent and I dont know if he would necessarily be the 4th receiver of the team but its true you dont usually draft 3rd options in the first round
