Brian Schottenheimer lives up to the hype!

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  1. Sgt. Slaughter

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    Mark my words having a Schottenheimer coaching your team in the playoffs can't be a good thing
     
  2. Jerricholic89

    Jerricholic89 Member

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    schotty did a much better job with play action than cameron did today. cameron had flacco on a naked boot running for a first down with an injured hip...terrible call. schotty had mark rolling out with two recievers in the route when mark hit keller for the td.
     
  3. Chrisp22

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    I believe the early passing success of Sanchez lulled the staff to believe he could run a balanced attack with all options available. When he hiccupped early on, it was easy to look at his early body of work and think he would bounce back.

    When the trend continued, they made the adjustment to the ground game. Greene made it easier when he began producing (and not fumbling).

    The key here is the coaching staff, Schottenheimer included, all took a step back and worked together and came up with ideas to get the Jets moving foward. I like what I saw the last 3 weeks.

    Guess a nice working enviroment can be conducive to winning. Good stuff coaching staff. Keep it up.
     
  4. Chrisp22

    Chrisp22 Active Member

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    And Sanchez made the decision not to throw it short to Richardson but deep to Keller. Good stuff.
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he had another great game in a really good year.

    My only problem w/ Saturday was the end of the 1st half. We had great FP and plenty of time but we decided to run 3 times to run out the first half. We shoiuld have been up 17-7 instead of 14-7 then the first possession of the 3rd qtr we setled for the long FG and those decisions could have burned us but luckily they didn't. Other than that the playcalling and gameplan was absolutely perfect.
     
  6. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

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    Great game called by shotty and the players executed it great.
     
  7. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps the way to understand BS this season is that the first three games and perhaps even the NO game, which the turnovers were critical in leading to the loss, the offensive schemes and plays were very good. Then the team fell apart in a number of ways, and it became apparent the way that Sanchez had to be set up had to change. BS arguably took somewhat longer than he should have to come up with a better approach, and of course Ryan got involved there, too.

    But taking out that horrible Atlanta game, they sure seem to have made the adjustments to make better use of the players they have, with their plusses and minuses.

    Of course it's also true that the OL, Sanchez and Greene all had great games, and Jones scored, too. They all made BS look good, but he was good, too.
     
  8. JfaulkNYJ

    JfaulkNYJ New Member

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    Schotty has to get a good bootleg pitch to Brad Smith for the Chargers.
     
  9. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Don't agree with this critisism at all. We worked very hard to get the lead and get the game under control. We were getting the ball to start the 3rd period. Something bad happens right before the half and it could have steamrolled us. We killed the clock and got an opportunity to go in at halftime and look at film. If we break a run we have an opportunity for the FG anyway.
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    We were near midfield w/ plenty of time left. You cannot assume anything, our D was NOT playing great football. we had a chance to be conservative and STILL score points. On top of that we settled for a somewhat long FG to open the 2nd half and that bit us as well w/ the penalties. Missing those opportunities could have been the difference in that game. Thankfully it wasn't.
     
  11. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Schotty did a great job, baby !!!!
     
  12. FOURTHANDLONG

    FOURTHANDLONG Active Member

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    Schotty designed a safe game plan that worked with Cincy and he should be commended for it. This week he will have to prove his worth because Sanchez will have to throw passes to win this game. Not safe passes but passes worthy of an Nfl Qb. Hopefully he can mature in front of our eyes.
     
  13. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Junc, you are splitting hairs man, to think that would actually come back and hurt us is ludicrous, there was so much football left to played. I agree with MR. Biggs on this one, call it safe, get the ball starting the second half and play some more football. :up:
     
  14. neid92

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    They stated yesterday on NFL Radio they he will end up in Buffalo once the season is over. I hope not, because I would really like to see Sanchez with the same OC next year. :buffaloblows:
     
  15. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    For all of you Schottenheimer haters/discreditors. It's like I said last week, the problem was Sanchez, not Schottenheimer. That's why Rex had to step in and join the meetings and put in color-coding for the kid.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/9019/schottenheimer-sees-a-qb-transformed

    But that Schotty is terrible coach for a budding QB. I know. :rolleyes:

    Sanchez made bad decisions, forcing Schotty to try to cover them up. We'll be fortunate if he doesn't take the Bills job. Both because we'll still have him, and we won't have to play against him.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I have defended Brian all year and he had a great game Saturday, I think rex made the call to run it 3 times on sat but i disagree w/ it. We kept cincy in the game where if they make their chip shot kicks they are one fluky play away from winning the game. That game shouldn't have been close in the 4th qtr. We can get away w/ that vs. cincy but not w/ SD.

    You can still play it safe and actually try to score. We gave no effort towards scoring w/ that great FP, w/ timeouts and w/ almost 2 mins to play.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    I absolutely agree that Schottenheimer did a great job on Saturday. I also think that he didn't do anything like this for most of the season, and I still don't understand why. Sanchez has looked good throwing on the run since preseason; why is it that it took until now to put it in the playbook? And before we congratulate him for doing such a good job of taking care of Sanchez when he struggled, why were play action passes and slant routes, the two obvious companions to a great running game, conspicuous by their absence?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I have to say that Brian Schottenheimer, since the halfway point of the season, has adjusted the way he runs this offense to the point that I can't help but get behind him 100%. He made a lot of decisions early on that I hated, made a lot of personnel decisions that I also hated, and I had some huge questions about his ability to mentor Sanchez at this young point in his career.

    Call it what you like, great adjustments, philosophical changes, the 'perfect storm' for matchups, or luck... but it's working and it's hard to find much at all to criticize. He's going to the hot hands in his personnel selection, calling an excellent mix of running and play-action, and attacking the weaknesses of the opposing defenses.

    And Sanchez looked more comfortable in yesterday's gameplan than I think I have seen him look all season. I don't care that it was the Bengals, for a rookie to come out looking that fresh and confident in the postseason, that gets a nod to the OC from me. Not only for developing Sanchez, but also for seeing in him what it takes to make it in January at this young age to begin with.

    Kudos to Schotty, we won because of the offense this week for the most part, because our D had a lot of problems finding an answer for Benson and this game would have been pretty ugly if the offense struggled.
     
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  19. JetFanInMD

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    The question is why didn't Schotty have these talks with Sanchez, why did Sanchez have to bring it up?
     
  20. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    But he did. Repeatedly.

    If people want to do the legwork, a number of articles were posted earlier in the season where Schotty was speaking to him, telling him about his mistakes, and Sanchez was just repeating the same ones the next week. (Having Joe Girardi train him to slide, only to have him go head-first and bust up his knee just days later is a glaring example of Sanchez's thickheadness earlier on. It's not hard to believe he was "Yesing" the staff to death every week.)

    We've all been 22. Imagine how we'd have acted if we had played exactly one season of football in between high school and a team trading up to get us in the first round. As Schottenheimer said, it all came too easy for MS. He needed to be knocked down a peg.

    As I've said before, Schottenheimer deserves some blame for some of our passing game problems. I called all year for more play-action. To me, that was a very legit criticism. My issue all along has been where people have completely ignored the overall success of the offensive game plans, that were ruined often by a rookie QB who made some pretty dumb decisions.

    Now that Sanchez has settled down and tried to just do his job, rather than create something, he's got the offense driving down the field. The combination of Schotty and Sanchez, along with this OLine and RBs, is going to be insane over the next few years, as long as Schotty is being honest about his desire to stay and work with Rex.
     

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