Porter didn't embarrass Champ bailey with Randy Moss help. Wasn't even a Raider when Porter took c Bailey to school. Second Randy Moss wasn't even healthy last year after first five games. Third Jaguars were supposedly goin g to make a big push for J Porter when he was to become a Freeagent(never made it to fA as he signed with raiders) J Porter can be as good as Terrel owens. HEs that talented but only plays when J porter wants to. Reports from minicamp is He wants to play this year. Maybe Raiders leaking his name in trade talks this offseason, motivated him. OF course I don't know exactly how many calls raiders have recieved but it was on ESpn that hes one of the players teams ask the most about his availabilty in a trade(Contact Espn Mortenson or Espn and see if this is indeed the case) Raiders aren't going to trade Gabriel because hes explosive and he makes peanuts.
Porter better than Owens, I think not, even on an average day for TO, Porter will never hold is jock strap, and besides if you look at the Jags recievers they are very comparable to the Raiders besides Moss, there is lots of potential mixed with a side of underachieving
Please tell us how many calls the Raiders have received in regards to trading for Gabriel? If i'm not mistaken, Didnt Curry, Gabriel and Porter all miss significant time last year because of injury?
NO they aren't. IF you want to say both teams have exceptional height at WR . Thats only thing both team Wrs have in common. Jaquars outside of matt Jones(whose really a TE playing WR) they don't have anywhere close to speed of raiders WRs. M Jones is exceptional fast but he would probably be fourth or fifth fastest WR, if he was on raiders. Listen you are entitled to your opinion on Porter but Im going to take A Champ Bailey (defintely one top top three CB in football) opinion, over your opinion.(what are your qualifications) He says J porter one of the top WRs in the game.
Listen that wasn't my report, but Espn that D Gabriel was the NFL player that more teams inquire about his availabilty in a trade. (again you want to find out the teams and how many contact Espn) Gabriel missed like first four of five game with thumb injury(had surgury) Curry coming back from achilles surgury (year before) tore the same achilles. (rushed back too soon) Missed most of the season. That is a very serious injury but thats not the first time he did that. Curry ripped his achilles in the other leg in college and can cut on a dime off that surgical repaired leg. Curry has the training regime down pack recuperating the leg from achilles. In 2004 he tore his achilles at the end of season, while this time he tore it in beginning of 2005 season. (alot more time for him to rehab) The reports are Curry is doing very well in his rehab. Raiders have so much depth that they are going to be real careful with Curry this time. J Porter missed all of training camp and all of preseason games due to injury but was healthy for season. Randy Moss was near league leader after the first four game untill he was severly hurt against Chargers early( blantant pass interference) R Moss played the rest of season at about 60 percent(didn't have his normal burst)
Your little first initial and last name is starting to make me want to shoot myself. ATLEAST USE A PERIOD! Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, Ernest Hankton > Porter, Gabriel, and who? The Jags have been rebuilding the WR core over the past 2 or 3 years and won't trade for a WR unless they get a great deal. If they're looking for a slot receiver and don't think Hankton is good enough then I'd ask about a guy like Ashley Lelie or Darius Watts from the Broncos. I'd also call the Lions first before anyone because they have 5 or 6 WRs that can produce for a team...
No team in football has more WR depth than the Raiders. Not the Colts, Not Lions and Not the Jaguars. Just when you have a R Moss, J porter and d gabriel its hard to find time for other very talented WRs on the roster. You might not know the other raider WRs, but you can bet every NFL team knows. . 1. J Morant 6'4 215 - was the number 1 WR coming of highschool, and went to syracuse, where they didn't have a QB. If Raiders move a WR, it will because they want to get this monster on field. Reason he hasn't been activated is he dosen't play special teams. 2. ALvis Whitted 6'0 185 - Fastest Raider WR and really has improved his game every year. ( 3 Carlos francis 5' 10 195- Fastest player at 2004 combines. despite his size will go over the middle and has great hands. 4 R curry 6'2 220 - coming off a serious injury to same leg. Reports are hes doing very well. IF he comes back to 2004 version. You could make a case he was the Raiders best WR in 2004. Hes probably speed wise , the slowest WR Raiders have, t but he was Raiders most consistant and fastest WR getting seperation from defenders. That where his point guard skills come into play(very quick feet) Two out of three TEs are former WRs. James Adkisson 6'5 240-250 this was player AL davis was stashing on Practice squad. (converting him to TE) Even at his current weight has sub 4.4 speed. Was the talk of Raiders minicamp, as they were using him alot. Someone to watch for next season. Randal williams 6'3 230 - not really aTE but more of HBACK . Another burner who has to improve his hands. Will be fighting for his roster spot, as C anderson and J Adkisson are pretty much assured a job. Raiders might be looking more for a blocking TE than a HB-back time. Supprising Raiders added alot of WRs in Draft and UFA . Typical raiders Wrs, very big and very fast.
There is other tangables such as hands, vision, etc., speed counts but it is not the be all, end all statistic for WR Not including Moss, which is what puts the Raiders over the top: Porter Jones Gabriel Wilford Curry Williams Francis Hankton They are very equal in current talent, potential and being inconsistent Honestly do you think that Champ Bailey is (after he is torched) going to say that Porter is an average WR that just walked all over him and took him to school, 10 games out of 12 Bailey will shut him down.
The fact that you were still debating the fact that Porter beat Bailey in a game in the snow TWO YEARS AGO shows your incompetence. The guy has yet to have a 1,000 yard season. He's not a premium target, merely a solid number two. Nothing wrong with that when you have Randy Moss on the other side. Let me ask you this? What happened in Oakland's first meeting vs. Denver when Porter got bitched for two catches? Sand in the vagina?
Gabriel played in 14 games last season and caught 37 passes for an average of 15 yards as the Raiders third wideout.
Some Smith facts: He played in one NFC Championship Game and two AFC Championship Games. He missed the entire 1993 season due to appendicitis. He was on the Philadelphia Eagles roster for 41 days in 1994.
Now whose fault was that. Look at the serious Jumping ability, MR irrelevant Kevin MCmahan 6'2 200 has. http://www.raiders.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/OMLBHGFHCABH/050606gallery-sp18.jpg
First off C Woodson total took out any Wr, he was on in that game(guess the snow only effected Bailey huh) Second Only reason J porter hasn't had 1,000 yards season yet, is more circumstances than his talent. LEt see he comes into league and is the Raiders third WR.( Problem is Gruden play with two TEs 85% of the time) . Tell me how your going to get yards. 2002 Callahan comes in, and takes Gruden same offense, and makes it the leagues best. He Goes with three wrs and J Porter is the main reason that offense takes off.(ask any Raider fan) 2003 J Porter has a hernia in preseason and is never anywhere close to healthy.(rest of season) His absence was felt, as Raider offense suffered tremendously(only WR that teams had to fear hurting them deep) HIs lost effected Rice and Brown tremendously. 2004 - R gannon took most of snaps in preseason, as K Collins threw 19 passes only. J Porter only really worked with first string QB- R gannon.; When Gannon was lost for season. K collins was more comfortable with second string WRs- R Curry and D Gabriel who he worked extensively . Porter numbers were so bad in the first half, .because Collins go to guy, was R Curry. Go look at Porter numbers in second half of season. ( reason why alot of teams were waiting for him to be a FA. 2005 - J Porter misses all of training camp and all preseaon games because he was injured. Raiders had one of the best passblocking Oline in all of football in 2004. They change to zone blocking scheme(ill suited to play) Raiders blocked like garbage in 2005 and your not going to put up big numbers when QB dosen't have time. Also Alot Of times K Collins just looked at a severly hurt R moss way or took dump off to L Jordan. J Porter is a number 1 reciever and just watch the numbers he puts up. (hes has that much ability) Than we will re-examine this thread and you will be eating some serious crow.
I'm only going to argue this part because the rest is more than likely complete bullshit lies you've made up about Porter. Why did Rod Smith have 99 yards yards and a touchdown against Woodson? Maybe you can explain Lelie's 4 catch, 80 yard day for us.
guys, you have to remember, RJ is the same guy who went on and on and on about how the Raiders would have a better offense than the Colts last season. How's that working for ya? :lol:
Yea that didn't happen in 2005, because Wr corp was hurt and the Raiders changing blocking scheme(zone blocking) couldn't pass block anyone. Lets see if thats case in 2006(lets see who has the last laugh) First Oline is back to Man on man blocking s cheme that was so effective in 2004 , second they moved Oline talent around to better utilize their talents. R gallery goes to LT, LT B sims to LG C J grove RG Steal of third round Paul "The mullet MCquistan and Rt Langston walker. Third raiders have a way more mobile QB in 2006. Fourth R Moss after first 4 games was severly hurt and didn't have his burst. Again we will examine this thread later. Laugh now but I think I will eventually have the last laugh.
Are you saying it wasn't your fault? Couldn't have possibly been Kerry Collins. Now you're going to rely on Aaron Brooks? Yeah cause he did so well in New Orleans that they decided to cut him and go with a guy with one arm. Way to go RaiderJoke
