:metal: TOTALLY CORRECT. The Sanchez ball washers here are apparently willing to shit on the entire team just because it is unable to make up for Sanchez being one of the worst QBs in the NFL. Its like its everybody elses fault that Sanchez can't lead his offense to score a freaking TD in the last 3 quarters of a must win game. All he could manage was to barely get them in FG territory. Suddenly getting a 38 fg attempt is considered a successful drive by the Sanchez ball washers. As if Sanchez has a 60Mil contract to get the jets in FG position 3 times a game. :lol::lol::lol:
I have been a big Sanchez supporter, but, He HAS to start showing significant improvements in his decision making AND accuracy. Both are problems and the accuracy never gets talked about. I am officially concerned. People who repeat the same mistake over and over are doomed to fail.
The coaching staff has made him play with too much thinking involved, when he was playing just off instinct he was just fine. He as made some beautiful throws too, there were many nice throws in the Atlanta game. I'm not worried a bit, I'm actually excited to see how he progresses.
I love how when things get bad around here, people resort to attacking other Jet fans for who they support. "Sanchez ball washers"? What a sad lot we all are.
He's a ROOKIE...and..He put the team in a position to win, against Buffalo, Miami, and Atlanta, only to have Special teams play cost us the game. If we had any two of those games, we would be almost assured of a playoff spot right now. for a ROOKIE..he's done ok..not great, but ok.
Maybe I am a homer, but I think Sanchez has done pretty good in 2009 for a rookie with 1 year of starting experience in college. Sure, he has thrown 20 INT's in 13 games and makes poor decisions at times, but he is still very young. People writing him off are crazy. What he really needs is a BIG WIN due to his performance. The Patriots game was close, as he made the key TD pass to Keller and made few mistakes. He can do this in Indianapolis where, most likely, the Jets will have to score a lot to win. If he can lead the Jets to (9-7) I think his future will be very bright.
Good post. We should all remember that Peyton Manning "led" his team to a 3-13 season his first year, but still, this post has merit. It's not a permanent condemnation of Sanchez, but rather a condemnation of his progress so far. And that's a very valid point here. Most of us expected far too much of MS this year. The kid is 23 and trying to handle it all. Okay fine, and I do understand. But what's alarming to me is that I almost see a regression in progress. Can many here deny that he almost looks worse in these last 4 games than he did in the first 4 games? So yes, that's what's startling to me and I'm concerned. He really needs to start listening to his coaches more... everything from protecting the ball (stop throwing into double coverage already) to sliding head first after being told not to and after even having brought in an expert on sliding to show him to his face. He's obviously still doing whatever he wants to do with the ball and it's got to be pissing off some of his teamates by now, if not Ryan and others.
Yeah getting down to the 2 yard line is barely in FG territoy. He also got us down to the 23 yard line and then a stupid personal foul call brought it back to the 38. We were driving good here and this ended up as a punt after the dumb penalties. All Mark's fault right?? This is a team game, it seems everyone blames Mark for the losses but he gets no credit for the wins. How the hell is that possible?
The first 4 games where nobody had any film on him or any inclination as to his tendancies and habits? Sure. Not wholly unexpected I don't think.
Good points. There were many contributors to the loss Sunday other than Mark Sanchez. Yet 3 turnovers is unacceptable. If we want to look for progress, we need to start with the most basic progress of all... not turning over the ball. This is what I'm talking about.
He was just playing his football then, before everyone started panicking and throwing all these rules and color codes at him. QB's have to play instinctively, they can't be worrying about all the crap that was put in his head. Mark is a gamer and wants to get at it, not just sit in the pocket and hand off. We drafted a QB, not another Chad Pennington.
This is an example of the "everybody else has to be perfect!" kind of argument made here. It's not realistic. The Jets are not the only team that commits penalties, or misses FG's from time to time. Again, the rest of the team should not have to be perfect to give the team a chance to overcome Sanchez's mistakes. The main point that concerns me is he is not getting better. He made "only" one interception his last complete game and some here were arguing the color code approach allowed him to turn a corner. Well, so much for that argument. It's the lack of improvement that should concern Jet fans.
It's official, less than one year in and Big Blocker hates our QB again. From now on everything will be his fault and we'll need to get rid of him before we can reach the "next level".
There are certainly opinions on both sides here but there are very legit concerns over Sanchez. His accuracy is not great. His pocket presence has deteriorated as the season as gone on. He is starting to really get the happy feet, dance around bit even when the pressure is not emminent. He continues to turn the ball over by getting sucked into throwing into coverage. One of the biggest worries I have is that he has not shown that great leader, make something happen at the end of games. He has not once responded to a late TD against the defense by leading a game winning scoring drive. He looks bad more often than good and this is with a team with a great defense, good o-line and good running game. These are the normal requisites for a rookie to do well and when looking at the Flaccos, Ryans and Roethlisburgers they have had decent teams in front of them. I'll be honest, I never really was high on him from the get go and he is going to really have to have a 'turn the light on moment'. At the end of this year he is no longer a rookie, he had better be much much better next year.
The coaches didn't hand down the rules and color codes until the multiple interceptions started piling up. All that crap was being put in his rookie head to prevent sliding head first, handling the football like a loaf of bread and making poor decisions. Yes, and those qualities will serve him (us) well, hopefully. But for now, we need this rookie to be less of a "gamer" and gunslinger than a learning QB who needs to master the fundamentals of ball security and basic, consistent playmaking. I couldn't help wondering during the game what a difference Leon Washington would have made in this game... just one more reliable checkdown for Sanchez to go to.
I put that on the coaching staff, they coached him ass backwards. Schotty is too cutesy with his play calling when all we need to do is run simple routes to big targets like Keller and Edwards. Being able to dump off to Leon is certainly missed too. They took Mark's football instincts away and made it too designed. I just can't wait for this kid to succeed and see what the reactions are then.
It isn't just the mistakes. It's the lack of big plays. Apart from the bomb to Braylon, which was a really well thrown pass, we are getting nothing from the passing game. Can anyone remember a successful two minute drill? Sanchez has to get better for this team to get to the next level and he is our only chance right now so I'm not giving up on him. All of the other parts are there. I am hoping like Hell that this is all part of the learning curve, but it sure is frustrating to watch.
I think a whole off-season to be here looking at film and learning, especially with a year under his belt and him on the film, will help a great deal. He seems pretty smart and committed, has the physical tools, I think he'll be fine. It's just tough because the rest of the team is set up for a veteran QB, so a lot is expected of Sanchez right away. Usually a rookie comes in and either plays on a bad team with no expectations or sits on a good team with no pressure. Throw in the fact that it's New York and he only played 16 games in college, I still think the upside is there, that this is not the finished product, not even close.
I can't imagine carrying the weight he has on his shoulders. He seems to be handling it all pretty well though.
