While I don't think Edwards and McCareins belong in the same discussion, it did cross my mind when people were dismissing the high percentage of drops that Edwards has every season. I wanted to say "What's your enduring memory of McCareins? Baltimore, anyone?" According to interviews I heard yesterday, his own teammates have acknowledged that the problem is mental, but nobody has been successful in trying to help him with it yet. Perhaps the change of scenery will help. Perhaps he's TO and poisons our locker room. We have no way of knowing at this point. Best to remain cautiously optimistic.
The idea that if it's not the greatest value rip off in NFL history you're critizing the deal is a little nuts. Edwards being the player he can be is the key to this being a good trade for us. If he is it's a winner on value and it makes us a much better team. If he's not it isn't. Both teams have rolled the dice on this. Cleveland gets two good young players and two nice picks which for Cleveland's not such a bad thing unless Edwars becomes a big time All pro and their picks bust out, and Stuckey and Trunsik can't contribute now and in the future. The Jets have definetly lost 2 good young players and 2 picks are gone. If Edwards is an unreliable player who drops third down conversions and TD's and mops about not having a long term deal and impacts the locker room we are worse for it. I like the deal because it shows that management believes that adding an explosive talent now they have real belief in this team now. That's pretty exciting stuff. If this team makes the playoffs they are going to need guys who can make explosive, game changing plays to go anywhere in the playoffs. Edwards has that kind of talent. Talent as we all know doesn't translate into performance unless coupled with a creative mind and focus.
2010 is the target for a Super Bowl, realistically. Anyone who thinks trading for a wideout a quarter of the way into the season to work with a rookie QB is going to yield immediate SB results is fooling themself.
On that pic of Braylon making that catch on the front page of this site...looks like he almost or is about to drop it. lol
Yes, because in order to be a genius a GM needs to get every single pick correct every time they draft.
I must be a fool then because I think the Jets are a SB contender with the addition of Edwards. The defense alone is Super Bowl caliber... now the offense just became good enough to support the defense's effort, where as pre-Edwards they were not. I'm not claiming we're GOING to win the SB... just that we'll be a strong contender for it.
This guy just got his playbook. You really think he's going to get in sync with a rook who barely knows it himself? Come on, edge, I can't remember receiver has ever been traded during the season and had that much of an impact. Chris Chambers and Roy Williams come to mind, and neither of those guys had hands problems. I know the situations are different, but there are similarities where it counts. I do think that the Jets have a lot of potential this year, but you rarely see so many new components on an offense able to do anything in the postseason against teams that are synced up and have been together for years.
And anyone who thought we would win it all in 2010 with the receiving corps we had and a rookie WR1 was also dreaming. I don't deny the risk in this trade, but the team had to do something to improve a glaring weakness. Braylon might suck and he may continue on his self-destructive path like many before him and many more to come, but he has also shown that he can be a very special, game-changing player at the NFL level. I think Ryan and Tanny are betting on him to return to that form and I'm going to trust their judgment. They have developed a pretty good track record.
The one thing that helps us out significantly is that Edwards has seen a similar playbook before. I read yesterday that the playbook we use is remarkably similar to that employed during Edwards' phenomenal 2007 season. The hope is that this aids his transition. Chambers and Williams didn't have that luxury. However, that doesn't change the fact that timing between Sanchez and Edwards will take a few weeks at best to build. I don't think we see much of an impact out of Edwards until after the bye, but our schedule is certainly favorable until that point. The Dolphins lack talent at the corner position, Edwards pulls Nnamdi off of Cotchery against the Raiders, and the Bills...well...the Bills.
Agreed. There is no way Edwards is going to contribute much right away or even before the bye, but we are only 4 weeks into a 17 week season. It's up to the coaching staff and Edwards to find ways to incorporate his skill set into the offense.
I knew the team was going to address the WR situation before the 2010 season, that was as obvious as the nose on your face. I'm not down on the trade, yet, but I know this was a move that wasn't going to pay immediate dividends. It may improve our offense's ability to put points on the board this year, but they will have to get on the same page to make a run deep into the postseason. Edwards looks like a very, very dynamic athlete, but in order to get on that page, he's going to have to work his ass off this year. He just doesn't seem like that kind of guy to me. Not the kind of guy that gives up free time to study his playbook, meet up with his QB to play catch and sync up on routes and work on audibles, to stay after with the guys to study film. I hope I'm wrong, but it'll be at least next offseason before this guy is up to speed on the playbook.
If you have played the last 4 years in Cleveland, I doubt if you're going to be the most charming WR in the NFL. Randy Moss hated Jokeland and played his way out of it, just like Edwards. TO drops a lot of passes, but makes tough ones aswell, just like Edwards. If u can make tough catches, it doesn't make sense u drop easy ones. Something tells me its all mental and a change of scenery should indeed help.
Best comment I've heard from Browns fans about Braylon Edwards: "I guess New York needed someone to drop the ball on New Years."
I'm sure he'll agree that working his ass off is better than the prospect of having Kris Jenkins sit on his head. My sources tell me those were the two options presented to him upon his arrival in Florham Park.
No way he turns into the next McCareins, he was a beast coming out of college, which is why he got drafted 3rd OVERALL. He has too much talent to be a McCareins.
I don't think the downside of the trade is as bad as you're making it out to be. It's low risk-high reward from how I'm looking at it. For the reasons outlined above the chances that the trade is an all out disaster are about 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 as I've outlined previously.
FWIW, Roy Williams sucked after he was traded to Dallas (for a 1st, 3rd and 6th) and he still sucks. Chris Chambers was traded to SD (for a 2nd) during the bye week in 2007, and in an LT/Gates dominated offense finished with 35 catches for 555 yards and 4 TDs in 10 games. Not saying it is going to happen, but it is possible to meaningfully contribute right away.
The worst player to wear a Jet uniform? You have no idea what you are talking about. When did you become a Jet fan? Maybe he was starting with all those better LBs on our team sitting on the bench. What a joke