I'm not sure if anybody else noticed this in yesterday's game, but, when I got back from the stadium, I re-watched the game. If anybody has the game DVR'd please help me out cause maybe there's something I'm overlooking here. There were 2 plays in particular in the 3rd quarter. The Titans came out throwing the ball pretty well. in one play, Collins was pressured and he threw the ball (while in the pocket) out of bounds about 20 yards down the field. No intentional grounding was called. Then later on in the same drive, it looked like a screen pass that never really developed, where Collins threw the ball about 5 yards away from him (again, while in the pocket) in the direction of a few OL. One of these passes (the first) came on a 2nd and long I believe. While the other that looked like screen pass, was a 3rd down. An intentional grounding rule pushes you back, and you get a loss of down, so I ask...why weren't these calls made yesterday? The reason why was brought to my attention, is because this is the same drive that Collins hit Nate Washington with a perfect pass to put them in the lead for the time being. If the refs make the correct calls, the score wouldn't appear as close as it was. I understand we won the game, and all that, and I could very well be wrong about my assessment. I'm just trying to see if in those 2 plays, the refs completely botched making the right calls. If someone can upload those 2 specific plays on that first drive of the 3rd qtr drive, I'd really appreciate it. This is so that others can see what I'm referring to.
refs aren't perfect, we all know that. But I do not think those two plays you mention were particularly agregious intentional groundings. Looked like there were receivers in the vacinity at least.
Those throw away passes while in the pocket (especially the one out of bounds) showed no Oilers player in camera view whatsoever. I think that was on a 2nd and 9 play. Unbelievable.
After one of those plays, I thought I heard the ref mumble something over the mike to the effect of "no grounding because he wasn't avoiding a rush," as in the only time they call grounding is when there is a rush present. This sounded wrong to me, but I forgot about it until now. Definitely think they missed one grounding call.
the sideline throw was definitely a 3rd down throw and not on the scoring drive. it may have even been in the second quarter. I remember the screen pass one as well, and kept looking for the RB in the vicinity, but I don't remember when that one happened.
See, I'm at work trying to get replay the game in my head, so I sound very vague at best. But I do remember seeing that LW facemask all the way from my seat in the uppers. Like I said in my OP, I'm not trying to complain, but get proven I saw a play wrong. I wasn't even aware that you couldn't get an intentional grounding if you're not trying to avoid the rush. That doesn't even make much sense.
At the very least they would've offset and repeat the down. But the face-mask was def not called. Face-mask was extremely obvious.
I was screaming for intentional grounding on that first play. It was definitely a WTF moment. I would have ripped my shirt right off if we lost.
Oh ok. At least some are remembering one play or the other. Which means they both happened. I thought I was going crazy. But one of those plays happened during the TD they scored, which pissed me off when I saw the replay.
On the one that went out of bounds, the pass rush had not yet gotten within arms-length of Collins but they were on the way. On the second one, the rush seemed to be much closer than the first but perhaps not within arms-length. I wasn't as clear on that one.
I know this is water under a bridge by now, but when I get home, I'll post the time of both plays when they happen. I'm already seeing a pattern developing here that they missed 2 intentional grounding calls in this game, one of which the end result was a TD. Fucking blows.
Correct. But was a WR/RB anywhere near the vicinity of where the ball was thrown? Or are you saying that because the rush didn't get to him he can throw it away while between the tackles?
