We still had over a hundred yards on the ground!!??! Remember when We only had one true back that would do that for us. I don't care how many hands touch the ball , a hundred plus yards on the ground is good in any form that puts it there!
i really can't believe how fucking dumb most of you are. You love this team, you watch the games... how you do I don't know - I mean, I can't watch TV or go to a stadium with my head inside my anus - and yet no one seems to apply common sense or understand why the running game can't open 5 foot holes for our backs to run through. i'm not even posting an explanation. Continue to be dumb, and make others stupid around you, because when someone needs an explanation and they come to you I feel sorry for them. You made them dumb as well. Can everyone use their fucking brains for once? Holy shit.
The run game has been mediocre so far, but it's been good enough to keep the opposing D honest and set up the short passing game. It's also been good to see Leon getting the ball more, which I think most fans were hoping for. Just because we were being billed as a run-first offense before the season I don't think that necessarily means we're going to see Rex and Schotty forcing the run if it's not working. It seems like we finally have a HC who can make intelligent adjustment during the game to give us an advantage - what a concept! With Sanchez looking as comfortable as he does passing the ball right now I have a feeling that we're going to see them mix up the playcalling on offense depending on the situation. So far it looks like they're not going to keep Sanchez limited to a vanilla playbook so I wouldn't be surprised if our offense has a little more variety to it than people might have expected before the season. As others said, the run game will bust out in time if Sanchez can continue to burn teams in the air.
Shit, I nominate this the post of the year! You just said everything I had in my mind about the ignorance in this thread. Awesome post!
It's been written a million times in this thread already but I'll write it again for clarity's sake: Teams are stacking 8/9 in the box and forcing Sanchez and the Jets average WR Corp to beat them. (Also, NE stilll have a great defensive line and they can still play the run very effectively) To effectively combat and overcome this obstacle, the Jets are going to need to throw down the field earlier and more often.
Oh I understand this and agree, I just feel the runblocking is going to mediocre whether they stack the box or put 6 guys in coverage, our runningbacks are good so they make up for the inconsistancy.
My sentiment exactly, 2 games and we are already looking to make changes, c'mon guy's be patient, the running game does exactly what we want it to do, wear out the defense so that in the 4th quarter we can pull away. It's like novocaine, give it time it will work.
Serially, there have been some really dumb posts in this thread. The fact that they have been stacking the box and we are still able to get 100+ yards on the ground actually says a lot (2 guys in the top 10 for AFC rushing 161+118). Let them continue to stack the box and us pound it out, wearing the other team?s defense down and then take a few shots in the passing game. It is a conservative offense that is time consuming and shortens the game but when you have a strong defense that is what you want. Give the other team fewer series on O. If we start airing it out, either scoring points or stopping the clock with incompletion, it means our D will have to go back out on the field and give their O more chances at catching lightning, the way we gamble the fewer opportunities the better. Not what we want. We want the D fresh and able to dominate and control the line of scrimmage.
Our O line is not opening up huge holes but if you watch the games they are putting a beating on the D wearing them down. And at the same time our D is pounding the shit out of the other team?s offense. TJ never was an elite RB but he gets the job done - falls forward for 3. The O and D will only get better with time. We still don?t have our best pass rusher in the game yet either, this team is not an elite team yet but they have the things in place to become a top 5 team (the D is already there). Relax, and just wait for it to kick in.
I never asked for changes just some opinions, open up a discussion, didn't realize it would shove sticks in peoples asses. Some of you guys need to chill out a little bit.
Both jones and washington average over 4yrd per carry. concidering TEAMS ARE STACKING THE BOX WITH 8 GUYS i think they are doing an ok job. some of you are idiots, tank is first in line. sorry just sayin...
I guess someone has to do it, so in defense of the pummelled StreetfighterJet, I offer the following: Why did Rex Ryan make this statement the other day regarding the O-line?:"They played good enough to win, but it probably wasn’t our best game up front." Was that because of our pass protection or was that a hint, perhaps, that he's displeased with our run blocking? For those who are calling people idiots and "fucking dumb" for questioning the O-line, I guess you're referring to your own coach, right? Call him out on it then, God Dammit! The coach is a fucking dumb idiot for making that statement! I understand the arguments, which are herein copy-pasted ad nauseum: "There are more defenders than blockers. They are stacking the box." Alrighty then. I guess Rex Ryan's "We're A Run First Team" and the concept that we'll "run the ball down your throats 'till you make us stop" isn't working, because they are making us stop. So much for that, I guess. We don't have enough blockers to get it done... TEs, FBs, RBs, whatever included. Simply put, I guess we can't fucking run the ball down your throat, so we have to stop trying to do that. Oh well.... I'm not saying that those who are slamming people for questioning our inability to run aren't correct in their "stacking" answer to the deficiency, but sooner or later we have to deal with this, because, as someone else said earlier, you don't win a SB without a running game. If everyone sees that (stacking) as an answer to our offense and can shut half of our offensive attack down by doing that, then we don't go to the big one. Two things have to happen. Either we find a way to open up lanes, or Sanchez has to take the continuous and ever-fatiguing responsibility on his shoulders to get us out of 3rd and 8 situations. That's a lot to ask of a rookie, but hopefully, both will occur.
I'm not worried about our running game. TJ has not looked like he's fallen off much, the carries are balanced, and the offense has looked as good as can be expected with a rookie qb. I've noticed Jones typically needs about 12 carries before he really gets into a rhythm, and I'm sure he'll get that against a Tennessee team that will probably have trouble moving the ball on us through the air. The Jets are the 7th ranked rush offense in the league. That's not terrible. I entered this season more concerned about their pass protection. I'm sure we will see an upgrade in the run offense. -X-
Look at SF... they get 8 man fronts all day long... and they certainly don't have the O-line we have... but they still put up many yards against the Seahawks! TJ is a good RB but only in a team that has a balanced passing and rushing offense. He jus't isn't powerful enough to push the front those 4-5 yards that would make us start from 2&6 and not 2&9. Last year, with the help of an amazing O-line play and with teams not knowing how much juice was left in Favre's arm, he was able to get those yards... this year with the O-line not blocking as well, without the blocking help of a TE (Keller just isn't that good at blocking) and without a QB that (at least for now) keeps defense honest he just can't pick up those dirty yards by himself. He is really good at running through small holes and at doing that for more carries than other RBs would (definition of a workhorse) but if there is no hole he just can't move forward even an inch. Hopefully Greene is the guy to do that... PS we are able to put up more than 100yards a game A) Because we run the ball twice than what many other teams do B) Because up to now we have always been in front and defenses started respecting Sanchez by the end of the game... let's see if we can run when our QB is in trouble and we have to come from behind...
I hope you're right, because our only answer to that (at least from a fan standpoint) is that they are stacking the box and we can't get it done because of that. I'm sure Rex Ryan will have more to say about that to our O-line this week.
Good point... I feel as if our pass protection has been very good aside from the strip sack on our first play against the pats. I have to assume he's expecting more productivity from the run game after looking at the film as well. I'd like to see S. Greene suit up sooner than later to see what he can bring to the table. Its not impossible to run on 8 or 9 in the box, and the impression I also got was that Rex demands that this offense be able to do just that.
