Damn Patriots

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by floridajet, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. UNWarCriminal

    UNWarCriminal Member

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    Sorry vision, my reply was supposed to have been for Buttle. Rookie mistake on my part. No wonder I wasn't drafted!

    Sorry man!
     
  2. Buttle

    Buttle New Member

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    If it was one reach or one pick out of line I think we could give them the benefit of the doubt. But when they are the team that is deviating most from the experts picks then we have a problem. I am not saying I am expert. No more knowledge than anyone else who reads a lot and has watched 25 drafts. But the Jets picks are out of line with the experts. look at the one thread detailing the experts devaition from the draft. They are almost dead on with only team picking outside the norm the Jets. Eitehr the Jets know something everyon e else doesn't or the Jets are reaching. I think its failry safe to assume they are reaching and not getting value.

    Look at the history of the best drafting teams the Patriots, Eagles, and Steelers their drafts coincide with the experst picks. They almost always get good value (as compared to the experts ratings) for their picks. Their drafts are all abvout maximizing the value of each pick. They take each pick and strectch it as far as they can get until they get maximum value. We on the optehr hand this draft have done the opposite and crimpeld up and squeezed our picks to get the least value.

    Either you have to agree that the Jets FO is brillant and is way ahead of the experts or they are out of line.
     
  3. dabrowsk1

    dabrowsk1 Active Member

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    Oh really? The Pats drafted 2 TEs when they already have 4 on the roster.

    The Phillies can afford to have that philosophy because they are an extremely deep team and on a championship level. They did not lose many players, and do not have many needs. So a few of these players, maybe even 3rd and 4th rounders, might not even make the team.

    The Jets are in a different situation. They can not afford to wait. They have to get the players they have targeted will contribute most to the team they are trying to build. They are rebuilding and Philly is not. The 4th round is just as important to the Jets as the 1st in rebuilding this team. That is not the case with the Eagles.
     
  4. DGrab

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    Yeah, this more or less sums it up although I'm ok with the Smith and Washington picks.
     
  5. DGrab

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    Why even follow the draft, every pick they make is a good pick by definition.
     
  6. UNWarCriminal

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    I'm not sure I follow you on that. My point is that the Jets are picking who they think can help them the most based on their own needs/wants, not on what others think.

    I definitely don't think that every pick they make is "good". But that goes for every other team in the draft as well. Whoever starts the season with every player they draft will probably be the first team do ever to have a "perfect" draft.
     
  7. UNWarCriminal

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    This is the first draft for Mangini and Tanenbaum, so there is no history to judge them by. Yes, there are several drafts that we would love to forget if we could. I won't deny that, but I also won't hold that against these guys who weren't a part of those busts.

    I haven't compared (as you seem to have) the selections of other teams to the projected rankings of the players, so I won't comment other than I don't think any expert had the Cards picking up Leinart or the Titans picking up Bush. The Jets may have "reached", but the worst pick of this draft was the first pick of the draft.

    I'm not trying to say the front office is brilliant. I'm simply giving them the benifit of the doubt until I see how it all pans out. I think the draft almost by definition is a crap shoot, so who knows? Maybe we ended up "stealing", not "reaching" for these guys.
     
  8. Cellar-door

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    Actually they only had 2 on the roster graham and Watson, fauria is gone. You really need 3, especially since neither Graham or watson is a great blocker. The 2nd TE they took is more of a FB.
     
  9. Kentucky Jet

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    AGREED! I hate the GIANTS and Pats.
     
  10. dabrowsk1

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    Ah, ok. Didn't realize that. Thought they still had 4. Thanks.
     
  11. tylaw4president

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    Graham is a great blocker, and Watson isn't half bad. They need the TE depth because they like to run a lot of 2 TE sets.
     

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