I think he played his best year as a Pro last year by far. He did win a Super Bowl 2 years ago. However, without Burress he struggled like expected.
Its not like getting to the super bowl is easy...so even without that lucky catch it's not like he hasn't done anything.
the 35 is guaranteed, I was guestimating that Eli has at most $20 million in incentives, and it is most likely less, hence my guess that he will make as least $75-$80 million dollars off of this deal, meeting only minimal incentives. The guaranteed money is just what the Giants are required to pay him if he is cut the day after signing the deal. He makes more than just what is guaranteed him, and there is no way in the world Eli's agents allowed this deal to be made with $62 million in incentives. Also on your point that he is an under 30 Pro bowler with a ring, well duh of course he is going to be paid. It doesn't mean he needs to be paid like the best QB in the history of the NFL, because I am sure we all can agree that he will not be listed consistently among the top 3 QB's of all time when he retires....
Too much money for Eli Manning? Posted by Mike Florio on August 5, 2009 7:41 PM ET Eighteen months after one of the most famous plays in NFL history -- the run and duck, dodge and chuck to a man who caught the ball with his helmet like Fred Biletnikoff sans stickum, the careers of the two key participants in that championship-altering play couldn't be heading in more different directions. The guy who threw the ball has signed a six-year, $97.5 million contract extension. The guy who caught the ball is, by all appearances, in danger of being cut. So while the New York Giants arguably aren't showing much gratitude to receiver David Tyree, they're arguably showing way too much of it to quarterback Eli Manning. Really, what has Eli done to deserve an average annual take of $15.2 million over the next seven years? His career passer rating falls south of 80 points, at 76.1. With receiver Plaxico Burress gone for good, that number might go even lower in 2009. What we can't understand is why the Giants didn't simply wait another year to see what Manning will do with a receiving corps that conjures memories of the relative no-names who were snagging darts from Tom Brady pre-2007. Manning's brother, Peyton, signed his long-term deal after the expiration of his rookie contract, at a time when the franchise tag could have been applied to him. So why not let 2009 play itself out and, if all else fails, slap the exclusive version of the franchise tag on Eli in 2010? If nothing else, the Giants would have been guaranteed that Manning would be going all out this year to drive up his value. As it now stands, maybe he'll now lose a little of his edge in 2009, given that he has finally cashed in with a record-setting deal. Think back to November 2007. After a woeful, four-interception performance against the Vikings, whispers were becoming murmurs that the Giants had kept the wrong quarterback on Draft Day 2004, and that Eli might never be nearly as good as Peyton. Somehow, the Giants turned things around, made it to the postseason, and finagled four straight wins in close, hard-fought playoff games. The unlikely accomplishment made Eli the toast of New York, prompting the media and the fans to forget the fact that Manning's full-season passer rating had been a Kordellian 73.9. So it hardly has been established that Eli Manning is one of the best quarterbacks in the game. In our view, he trails Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and Donovan McNabb. [UPDATE: And Drew Brees.] Soon, Matt Ryan might leapfrog the Eli. And the Jets have a rookie quarterback who could soon capture the imagination of New Yorkers both with high-end play and a personality that looks to be a lot spicier than Manning's aw-shucks Milquetoast shtick. Bottom line? The Giants could have broken the bank for Eli Manning after the coming season just as dramatically as they did it today. Given the full range of Eli's career, it might have been prudent to let him prove that he's more like the guy who showed up in January and February 2008 -- and less like the guy we've seen for most of the rest of his career.
The Jets wanted to draft Plax, but Pitt stole him and we got Chad. And then we tried to trade Chad to Pitt for Plax...member that?
I remember that we wanted Plax (as did I) and got Chad instead, but I don't remember us later on trying to trade Chad for Plax. Too bad we didn't.
He's got a ring but he isn't worth that kind of money. Regardless, you knew the NYG were going to pay him big, long term so it shouldn't surprise.
The Jets offered Chad for Plax plus a 4th...Pitt turned it down because they had cap on Kordell stewart.
Didn't know that. Wish there was a "Thanks" or "Rep" button here, you'd have it GM. Too bad we couldn't get Kordell Stewart. :lol:
Well far be it for me to question the football genius that is Mike Florio and his highly reputable website, but that article is fluff and garbage. Ryan and Sanchez could be better? Yeah, and I could wake up with Denise Milani riding my junk tomorrow. And who gives a shit if he isn't as good as his brother? Peyton is one of the best QBs to EVER play the position, being not as good as him doesn't mean you suck. And I love how Florio just waxes over the part about Eli's playoff run. "Somehow" he played well and got his team to the Super Bowl. Whatever, at this point I am checking out and resigning myself to the fact that there will always be a bunch of fucking morons that hate Eli but can't actually back up their bashing of him with any real facts.
Man, people are really overrating the fuck out of Plaxico Burress here, huh? He had 35 catches last year and it was Manning's best regular season as a pro.
None of which you will find debating whether Eli is really worth that kind of money. It's probably not fair because I'm a bit biased... I really don't care for the guy so I'm sure my reasoning is leaning that way already. But until he puts up a few more seasons like his Super Bowl one, I think this guys vastly over paid.
Fair enough. I'm biased myself. I know that a lot of people think that Eli is nothing more than the 2007 version of Trent Dilfer. Let me pose a question to you though: what happened to that Ravens' offense after Dilfer left? The fact of the matter is that if you have a QB that you've won a Super Bowl with, you've got something good on your hands and you pay accordingly.
Say what you want about Eli Manning, but if nothing else, that pass-heavy go ahead drive of his vs. Dallas in the playoff win in Dallas just before the end of the 1st half set the tone for his team winning that game and advancing to the the NFC game in Green Bay on their way to the Super Bowl. And while acknowleging the Giants' QB-killing defensive line's dominating play during their "on-the-road" record setting winning winning streak...and Tyree's SB catch...and yes, maybe Asante Samuel dropping that "sideline int" at the beginning of the SB winning drive, E. Manning (and I'm no huge Eli fan), for better or worse has won a ring. Is he worth THAT much? IMHO, nah. But at the same time, the Giants for the next 6 years do not have to address the "QB" question and instead can focus their attention elsewhere personel-wise. That said, I hope Eli Manning and the Giants fall on their collective faces in 2009.....big time.
Shows u what getting a ring will do for you. People forget that he was almost run out of town that season they won it.
