I like his work a lot. On draft day he worked perfectly. LT (D'Brick), C (Mangold), RB (Washington), WR (Cotchery), QB (hopefully with Sanchez), TE (Keller), ILB (Harris), CB (Revis), S (Rhodes) in 4 years he brought in 9 extremely good players plus many more who are at least useful... I think that's all you could ask for. I don't get why you all criticize him for drafting Clemens in the second. It was a risk sure but with a guy as injury prone as Pennington if you have the opportunity to get a QB who was supposed to go in rd 1 why not give it a shot? I think Clemens will surprise many people this year. He won't be phenomenal but a lot more serviceable than many here think. Gholston is a question mark for now but how many of you wouldn't have drafted him 2 years ago? He was a top 6 lock and BPA in a position of need... let's hope he pans out. The first thing you have to do when you draft is put some talent on the team. Now that we have some at the most important position (a DL is the one missing) you can draft for depth... From a FA point of view in these last two years he did a nice job and his best asset is managing the Cap. What more could you ask in a GM? I don't know about this year but in the '10 season with all of the patriots players turning 45, the dophins with an old pennington or a new guy at QB and the bills.. well the bills being themselves I see us winning the AFC East. This year with a new coach, new QB and new mentality let's try to do our best. '10 and '11 are the seasons Tanny will be judjed for. PS adding 2 good players per draft + 1 FA per year is a very good way to build a strong team.
I like him, but it seems there is a general problem, perhaps because he's in NY, of trying to be competitive every season. If we have a bad year it's because something has gone wrong, not because we're developing anything. He is trying to put out a winning team every year, which is great, but you can only get so far plugging holes, unless luck deals you a great hand.
Tanny's been alright, and he's young. There's better, but I think if we tried to upgrade we'd end up with someone much worse. Keep him!
Outside of the Favre trade(which resulted in releasing Chad) and the Gholston pick(which still can turn out to be a good choice) he's done an excellent job and if Sanchez turns out to be for real even the Favre trade will have been worth it to speed up getting a new QB of the future.
He's really good at trading up in the draft. Not sure I agree that is always the best thing to do, but he's really good at it.
I like Mike as our General Manager so far. I really like the attitude of this organization ever since he became the GM. The Jets Front Office definitely has shown that they want to win. Woody has been opening up his checkbook and we are as active as possible in acquiring FA picks and getting "our guy" in the draft. So far this hasn't translated as well as we all hoped on the field, but I feel confident in where out organization is going.
I think he's underrated around the league and VASTLY overrated by Jets fans. I'm right there with you. He hand-picked his buddy Mangini to be his HC and that blew up in his face. He's been inconsistent in his approach to player acquisition, and I think that is largely because he has football guys in his ear telling him which way to go... I mean, he IS a contract lawyer. I've always wanted a guy in the FO that is football through and through running the shop someone who has a football plan and knows football talent when he sees it - so I guess I am biased here. But it's impossible to argue against his negotiation of contracts and trades and his management of the cap. I'm on the fence right now, but I think he is far from 'great' when it comes to the job of an NFL General Manager.
There are few other GM's I'd like to have in the war room on draft day then Mike Tannenbaum. That said, drafting isn't the sole responsibility of a general manager. Putting together a championship organization is the only true measuring stick for GM's. Fucking Pioli, Polian, those are some great GM's. Kevin Colbert, who isn't even technically a general manager, is a great GM. When you can build a championship team solely through the draft, lose a Hall of Fame coach, hire a young rookie to replace him and pull down another championship a few years later... that's a fucking brilliant job. (In all fairness, a lot that credit should be shared with the Rooney's, though).
If anything, the man should always be retained for some office job because he is a contract negotiating guru. The NBA drool over people that get things done like he can.
Mangini wasn't a bad HC, he did lead us to postseason in 2006 and had 2 of 3 winning seasons. He didn't do a good job at the end of last year but I wouldn't say that move blew up in his face.
I'm not going to unconditionally bash Mangini, he had a lot to do with the current make-up of the team and he instilled discipline in a team that wasn't extremely disciplined when he got here. I had a bunch of problems with the way he used personnel and a number of his coaching decisions were baffling in 2007 and 2008. Just like Herm, it's not all cut and dry bad versus good. But when you trade for Favre, your team goes 9-7 after an 8-3 start and turtles at the end of a promising season (2008 was a total collapse, and it wasn't just because of Favre) - then you fire your hand-picked HC - sorry, but that is blowing up in his face as far as I am concerned.
Mangini had bad people skills in the end and it killed his chances here. Getting in an annual public catfight in the news about contracts with a respected journeyman player is just not the way to go. Putting Kendall in the rookie dorm was a bush league move and from that point on Mangini never had the clubhouse fully on his side again.
It wasn't all Favre but favre was the biggest reason we collapsed. I don't think Tannenbaum would have fired Mangini if it was up to him, I think that was Woodys call.
It's funny how he came in as a cap guru and everyone questioned his talent evaluation skills but the main criticisms of him are the way he's handled some of the contract situations. He has brought in a ton of top level talent but the key is developing some depth. Give Rex and Sanchez 2009 to grow and mature, get a defensive end and a wide receiver and 2010 should be the year he's judged on.
Favre threw a lot of turnovers. Favre didn't call the astounding number of passing plays and give up on the run so many times in the last 5 games. Favre also didn't call the moronic 3-man rushes and allow his young secondary to be picked apart. They could have controlled the ball more and instead let Favre throw the game away. They could have rushed the opposing passer and caused some turnovers of their own. That is weak coaching.
the coaching does take the majority of the blame. To throw the ball in the Seattle snow 35 times with a QB who has a bad shoulder is beyond me. And they were only down by 10. That game was on mangini the entire time. And trick plays in the rain??? Holy shit.
I really like Tannenbaum as a GM he's drafted 3 pro bowlers and an alternate. He's brought in key free agents like Jenkins, Pace and Scott even though Scott was mostly because of rex ryan. But overall i think tanny has done a great job
