As the NFL supplemental draft approaches, at least 3 players are considered intriguing enough to potentially be drafted, according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com. University of Kentucky defensive end Jeremy Jarmon headlines a list that also includes Central Michigan offensive tackle Joe McMahon and Florida State wide receiver Corey Surrency.Jarmon is an All-Southeastern Conference pass rusher who was declared ineligible by the NCAA after testing positive for a diuretic, a banned substance under NCAA rules. Jarmon is scheduled to hold a Pro Day campus workout on July 9 prior to the draft, which is set for July 16.And the Philadelphia Eagles have displayed interest in Jarmon, bringing him in for a visit, according to Joe Schad of ESPN.com.At Kentucky, Jarmon registered 13 1/2 sacks and 100 tackles over the past two seasons. Jarmon, who?s listed at 6′3″, 280 pounds, has 4.76 speed in the 40-yard dash. A 6′5,? 210-pound junior college transfer, Surrency caught 12 passes for 237 yards and four touchdowns during his lone season at Florida State.Surrency started twice last season, but was suspended for two games.He was suspended for the Georgia Tech game for violating team rules. He was also suspended for the Boston College game because of his participation in a fight outside the student union.Surrency, who had trouble with the law growing up in Miami, was declared ineligible by the NCAA due to playing two seasons of semi-pro indoor football in Florida after attending junior college. He lost a subsequent appeal. McMahon is a two-time Golden Gloves boxing champion who attended Central Michigan after playing junior-college football at Joliet (Ill.) Junior College.McMahon started at offensive guard and center for the Chippewas, but his academic problems derailed his collegiate career.
McMahon is the kind of player that Ryan likes. He loved Tom Zbikowski for his boxing prowess and understood that he can pack a punch on the football field. Perhaps the same with this kid. Its good that he can play tackle, but can he also play both Guard positions effectively?
As of 2007: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2931303 Of the 34 prospects from the supplemental drafts between 1977 and 2005, nine never played even a single snap in a regular-season game and 16 never started. Only four ever made a Pro Bowl appearance. Just five carved out careers that included 100 or more games. The average career span for those 34 players is 44.1 regular-season appearances, the equivalent of less than three full seasons in the league. None has been elected to the Hall of Fame, although wide receiver Cris Carter, who ranks second in NFL history in career receptions, should become the first in the next few years.
^ Haha yeah. I was slightly interested in it, but after Byz's post, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
Jarmon would have been a first day pick had he entered the 2009 draft. He was suspended for trying to get better...he wasn't taking steroids, he was taking a weight loss supplement that was given to him by a doctor...Jarmon was trying to lose 5 to 10 pounds to get faster off the snap. Jarmon is the only guy worth taking and he could end up being a steal...because in my opinion, he would have been one of the best defensive linemen in the SEC. JJ is a guy that WANTS to dominate on the field. Teams want players like him...if a team gives up anything after the 4th round for him in the Supplemental draft, it should be worth it.
But if he's in the proper system, right? I vaguely remember asking you if he'd be worth taking in, like, R3 or R4 and I thought you had said you wouldn't because of the depth of next year's draft. Also, if a player enters the Supp Draft and doesn't get drafted, can they still go work out with a team and be signed as an Undrafted FA?
did you actually watch surrency play? surrency played nowhere near the level of urrutia in college, and surrency only had 1 year of major college football experience. he's big and has some raw talent, but that's it. runs bad routes and for some reason, despite his size, seems to constantly get beat on the jump ball. oh, and he's got questionable hands. not a very smart or instinctive player either. he had potential at fsu, but not being able to play another year, he'd just be camp fodder at best in the nfl.
Exactly - Jarmon is a 4-3 tackle. He'd be a perfect fit on a team like the Eagles... I kind of remember that...Jarmon isn't the right fit for the Jets' defense, so he wouldn't be worth one of our draft choices. For a team like the Colts or the Eagles, Jarmon could be a steal.
Not to nitpick but Jarmon is definitely not a 4-3 tackle, he is a 4-3 defensive end. I agree that he isn't worth a selection by a 3-4 team because he wouldn't have a position in that scheme, but in the 4-3 the only position he'd find success at is LDE. If he were to play defensive tackle, he'd have to add on at least 20 lbs to his current weight.
You're right about Jarmon being an end...but he also rotated inside at Kentucky. If he ends up on a team like the Eagles, he'll likely be a defensive end, but I can definitely see him making a complete conversion to tackle. Right now, JJ playing weight is 280-285. He was taking the weight loss supplements to slim down and gain speed. If a team like Indy took him, he could move inside. They have a very undersized defensive line...one of their starting defensive tackles is under 255 pounds, which is smaller than most NFL linebackers. The guy's an excellent power move rusher. He'll fit nicely into a Tampa 2 defense, whether he plays inside or out.
I didn't watch Kentucky much, but I'm almost certain that if he was ever moved inside it was on definite passing situations in order generate some extra pass rush -- similar to how Jamaal Anderson plays LDE in Atlanta but at times moves inside to DT on passing downs (just an example from the top of my head). In that sense I guess Jarmon could play inside, but sparingly, certainly not full-time at his current weight. Also, Jarmon would not be a versatile DT in the Colts new scheme - they are moving away from the Tampa 2, as evidenced by the drafting of DTs Fili Moala and Terrance Taylor, both of whom are 300+ lbs DTs. As he is, he'll make a pretty good LDE for a 4-3 team and I am not surprised at all that the Eagles are looking at him for that exact position.
I was just talking about the fact they both get into fights often... I have no idea how the guy plays... but thanks for the info!
So if you want one of these delinquents, what do you bid? Would you get them with a 6 or a 7 or will they go higher?
