I cant stand everyone who under their posts lists there jets draft rounds 1-7. Zero fans go to live games, interviews, scout combines, ext. So, here is the breakdown by position. Quaterback (2): Chad Pennington, 2001. Brooks Bollinger, 2003...Final Say: If these picks worked out then most people wanting either Leinart, Young, Cutler and Croyle would be silent. Running Backs (5): Dustin Johnson, 1998. Lamont Jordan, 2001. B.J Askew, 2003. Derrick Ward, 2004. Cedric Houston, 2005...Final Say...just two RB's on this list on team and figure to be minor players in the future Wide Recievers (4): Chris Brazzel, 1998. Windrell Hayes, 2000. Laverneous Coles, 2000. Santana Moss, 2001. Tight Ends (4): Lawrence Hart, 1998. Blake Spence, 1998. Anthony Becht, 2000. Joel Dressen, 2005. Offensive Tackle (9): Eric Bateman, 1998. Doug Karczewski, 1998. Jason Fabini, 1998, Ryan Young, 1998. Situpe Peko, 2001. Kareem McKenzie, 2001. Dave Yovanovits, 2003. Marco Cavka, 2004. Adrian Jones, 2004 Guards (4): J.P Machado, 1999. David Loverne, 1999. Randy Thomas, 1999. Jonathan Goodwin, 2001. Defensive Ends (6): J.J Syvrud, 1999. Shaun Ellis, 2000. John Abraham, 2000. Bryan Thomas, 2002. Matthew Walters, 2003 Trevor Johnson, 2004. Defensive Tackles: Eric Ogbogu, 1998. Dorian Boose 1998. Jason Wiltz, 1999. Richard Seals, 2000. James Reed, 2001. Alan Harper, 2002. Dewayne Robertson, 2003. Sione Pouha, 2005. I'll come back with a Michael Wilbon article on the draft and our LBs Cbs and Safties
First of all-if you look at the numbers-the jets have the most starters drafted by there team than any other team in the league, and starting with the Parcells era, the Jets have been one of the best drafting teams in the NFL
Well if that was last year it was because 2nd string guys such as Houston, Goodwin, Reed, Thomas, Johnson, and Brown were all starting...
currently, we have chad, ellis, thomas, drob, coles and askew. We are in need of a fb (askew's position, which he won't play) QB (oh, but chad is a starter so he's good) Ellis, thomas (enough said) and drob (mystery or soon-to-be bust and coles is solid, plus vilma and hobson (solid), rhodes and coleman (up in the air for DBs)
I have to agree here. The Jets have not drafted poorly in the last few years. Look at other teams. And just because you draft a player at one position and a player picked after him turns into a start doesn't mean your draft sucked.
I don't even remember Dustin Johnson. Does anyone remember what round he was taken and if he made the team? Anyways, the draft is a crapshoot. The success of a teams draft is influenced by the coaching/development of the players taken.
that's why i find it funny when people say, "ok, i want him, him and him" in this years draft. Your entitled to your wants, but in the end we have no control and we have to just have faith..ha corny aint it
Screw it, why bother drafting at all. Let's just pass on all our picks, because clearly the draft is a waste of time. I cannot STAND it when people use the examples of Tom Brady and Ryan Leaf to "prove" that the draft is a complete crapshoot and round 7 is as important as round 1. The likelihood of a guy succeeding who was picked in round 1 is astronomically higher than the later rounds because overall, scouts ARE able to predict who will be good and who will be bad. Not with certainty, but percentage-wise they do get it right. Yes, teams find sleeper stars every year, and all great football teams have these guys...but Tom Brady is a one in a bajillion occurence and it does not mean that a first rounder isn't way more likely to succeed than a 6th rounder. Nobody's claiming there are sure things in any draft beyond maybe a couple guys (AJ Hawk), but overall you have a much better chance of getting a good player in round 1... ...but oh wait, Ryan Leaf sucked. Therefore Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler must suck. I take back everything I said. Also, the guys who will be drafting for us now had nothing or very little to do with our past drafts, so I'm not sure what you prove by bringing up our past drafted players. And by doing that you're kind of proving my point. The players who we drafted in the high rounds are much better than the players we drafted in the lower rounds...one would think this would be obvious. And finally, it's possible that we have the highest number of drafted starters because we had 4 first rounders in 2000 and they all started.
After re-reading your post Matty, I think you're not saying what I thought you were saying. But anyway, I was just venting on the Jeffrey Chadiha's of the world.
I hate when people say, "well the jets suck at picking te's in the first round, so, screw picking Vernon Davis." Hey, do you feel that way. Well, if Winslow so far has sucked and Brady, Becht and Mitchell sucked, then Davis will most def not live up to No.4...i hope people dont think that way but ive heard that argument
my posts usually amount to nothing..haha...the point was, people's personal mocks meant jack shit...everyone in 98, 99 probably had on their list a blake spence or a dustin johnson...so, just stick to cheering the jets in anyway i guess, unless it's bryan thomas over ed reed
i think for the most part i agree with you. the part i get a little hazy at is that first round players versus the lower round players. certainly the higher picked players have a better chance overall because they will get usually get more chances, teams are more likley to give that player more playing time and cut them a little more slack because they want to prove that there money draft pick was well spent. but if you look at the positions, look at our oline. Jason Fabini, Ryan Young, Kareem McKenzie, Adrian Jones, Randy Thomas, al lthese guys proved well worth there draft status. Typically though, as I've stated before this position is generally where teams can finds starters later on in the draft. The one position the jets have't had much success at is DT, it's a position that is rated very highly for that reason, it is much tougher generally to develop a DT. We've also had I think some success at rb, Lamont Jordan was obviously a good pick, and Askew really has hadn't a chance, but he has much potential, and Houston showed some flashes last year as well. Not every player as well know is going to be a starter but picking players that fit your teams mold is important. Every team needs special teamers, and guys that can rotate in on a dime and play to their full potential, which is extremely underrated by most people, how difficult it is to come into a game during the middle and perform at a high level.
The parcells era was horrible w/ the draft until they had 4 picks in rd 1 in '00. Since that time we have done very well in the draft.
Jerricho Cotchery 2004 & Harry Williams 2005. Forgot two. You do realize that if you look at the toolbar at the top of the page and click on Jets history, that there is a page for all Jets draft picks by year, right?
98 just may have been the worst draft year ever for the Jets. 1 Choice to New England - - 2 (#56) Phi Boose, Dorian DE Washington State 3 (#67) StL Frost, Scott DB Nebraska 3 (#87) Pit Williams, Kevin DB Oklahoma State 4 (#111) Fabini, Jason OT Cincinnati 5 (#134) Phi Dailey, Casey LB Northwestern 5 (#141) Karczewski, Doug OG Virginia 5 (#146) TB Spence, Blake TE Oregon 5 (#149) Pit Bateman, Eric OT Brigham Young 6 (#163) Phi Ogbogu, Eric DE Maryland 6 (#174) Brazzell, Chris WR Angelo State 6 (#183) Den Johnson, Dustin RB Brigham Young 7 (#195) StL Hart, Lawrence TE Southern Fabini turned out to be the crown jewel of that year. Yeesh.
That's true but Fabini ended up a first day starter and solidfied the line which helped us make the first legitimate run at a SB since 82. That alone made that draft a good one. At the end of the day if we get 1 great player or 1 player that plugs a critical hole that allows the team to excell, how can you really knock it?
Moss, Coles, Fabini, Abraham, Ellis, Jordan and Pennington. All good picks. Most of them Pro-Bowlers at one point. Abraham was STILL worth a first round pick this year. Pennington put up one of the best debute years ever (his first year playing, not his rookie season), Jordan never got his chance here. 7 players of that caliber in 7 years... Is that good, bad, or mediocre? How good did other teams do (teams that weren't named the Patriots). I'm asking sincerely, how good did other teams do?
outstanding post I agree completely. I was going to post something like this last week in one of the threads a poster was saying how we should trade down, but all he did was write down all the top busts he could think of and all the lower round jewels; it was ridiculous.
