Jet Draft Mistakes Over the Years

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    But he wasn't a complete bust, Haight was a complete bust, Vick was a complete bust- at least cadigan gave us some useful years and although we may have picked Lageman early he turned into a pro bowl caliber player for us.
     
  2. Hemi

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    Houston would have been a great fit in the current back rotation I think. Too bad he retired.
     
  3. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    I think we agree, but certainly "wasn't a complete bust" isn't the bar we want to set for top 10 picks, is it?

     
  4. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Makes me sick to my stomach...:eek:hmy:
     
  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Absolutely. Cadigan gave us some good years. And he was highly regarded coming out. Paul Gruber was the other guy that was highly regarded as well. Actually Paul Zimmerman had us taking Gruber in that draft but the Bucs took him in front of us.
     
  6. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Oh and Blair Thomas baffles me because he looked so promising during his rookie year. I still don't get how he didn't make it in the NFL.
     
  7. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Cadigan never lived up to his draft number. A couple of nuggets from the past:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/29/s...re-for-losers-here-s-what-0-4-looks-like.html

    Sept 1992 - Jets are 0 - 4:

    EXCESSIVE PENALTIES

    On Sunday against Los Angeles, the Jets were penalized 12 times for 102 yards. For the season, they have been penalized 34 times for 261 yards. The left side of the offensive line has been hit significantly. Left tackle Jeff Criswell has been penalized three times (vs. the Falcons) for false starts and once for holding. Left guard Dave Cadigan has been caught five times for holding, once for illegal motion and once for a false start.

    Oct 1992:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/01/sports/football-when-the-going-gets-good-jets-go-bad.html

    Left guard Dave Cadigan, the team's only first-round pick, missed most of training camp and it has shown with costly holding penalties and false starts.


    One more from more recent one, this time Cimini (I know, consider the source):

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2007/10/

    Offensive Line

    How in the world is LG Adrien Clarke still starting? Even former bust Dave Cadigan, in his post-steroid days, never played this badly.

     
  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    No one is saying he lived up to his draft number. But he was a solid contributor for 6 seasons. He wasn't a bust, he just never developed into a perennial pro bowler like Gruber was.
     
  9. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Maybe I just have a different definition of bust. I don't consider a 6 year starter or someone who gets injured to be busts. Lam Jones and Blair Thomas were busts to me. Mike Haight was a bust. I don't believe Cadigan was a bust.
     
  10. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Yeah, he wasn't a bust, but it was a wasted top 10 pick.

    Cadigan screwed over the Jets, by the way, by 'roiding before the combine.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/27/sports/jets-top-pick-says-he-took-steroids.html?sec=health

    Cadigan, the all-America offensive lineman from Southern California, admitted today that he took steroids, which are used to increase an athlete's bulk, for six weeks earlier this year so as not to be at a disadvantage when the National Football League staged its annual physical tests.

    In those tests, conducted in February in Indianapolis, Cadigan, a 6-foot-5-inch, 285-pounder, outlifted every other offensive lineman. He also performed the most repetitions in lifting.
     
  11. ouchy

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    If Cadigan wasn't a bust then Robertson wasn't a bust.
     
  12. I would say Robertson was a significantly better player and filled a bigger role than Cadigan. Cadigan for a few years was a liability w/ penalties and was quickly replaced.

    Robertson filled a hole at a position that had haunted us for a number of years before his arrival. When he played in the proper scheme he was effective. And even miscast in the 3-4 he had a few good games including against NE in the rain and against Minnesota.

    When Mangini first arrived D rob was a top 3 player on D along w/ J abe and Vilma. All 3 of which were better fits in a 1 gap 4-3 scheme. Mangini decided to trade J abe and make Vilma/ D rob expendable in his 2 gap 3-4 scheme. It also didn't help that the FO didn't do enough research pre-draft on D rob's knee condition which presented a problem in his later years w/ the team.

    I'd still take him over Cadigan any day of the week
     
  13. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you bro.
     
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    I didnt think Marvin Jones and Aaron Glenn were terrible Jets--- they were very serviceable players for a long time. OK-- they were not GREAT but not terrible either. I would not call either one a bust.
     
  15. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I didn't put Robertson down as a bust.
     
  16. takrew

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    Lageman probably would have lasted to the third round as most teams didnt even have him on their boards....

    How about Johnny Lam Jones? Remember him? The guy the Jets NEVER actually went to watch play before they drafted him.... amazing....
     
  17. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    This all started going downhill with Steve Tannen....
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Mental toughness, I don't think he ever recoveered from that fumble in Chicago. He was actually good for us in 1990 and parts of 1991.

    Who said they were busts?
     
  19. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Blair was similar to Bo Jackson at Penn State, I watched him for 4 years there, I don't know what happened in the pros, he started running very tentatively and that was it...
     
  20. MexJetinBcn

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    A reminder for all those who argue that these last few drafts were terrible
     

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