I agree with your point but I would not be upset if we did WR (but Im not sold on Nicks) and how can you not mention Moreno when discussing potential first round RB
Absolutely Agree.... This thread was dumb to start off. I knew after reading, "why do you guys want a guy like Nicks", I was going to be confused by the logic behind a post like this, in which i think there has already been a post on this. Why? because a team like New England is going to ruin our running attack unless we throw the ball deep on occasion and get it in our receivers hands, or utilize some big physical receivers in the end zone to get some points on the board. We do need a running back for the future, but why Nicks? C'mon, he's got everything. and if you can't see the logic behind drafting a number one receiver, which is absent from our roster right now, than you don't deserve to post. TJ just came off a great year, with the same offensive line. If there was a guy like Adrian Peterson in this draft, I'd think about it, but there's not. Some experts have beanie wells going to Arizona in the late first...for a reason. There are guys that can be drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds that are great running backs, that would help any team out. There is no Darren Mcfadden, or Adrian Peterson in this years draft, if there was , I'd take it because Adrian made a huge contribution to his team as a rookie.
It's a joke, because almost everyone on this board truly believes that Clemens is going to be the franchise QB.
If last year showed us anything, it is that WR's should not be picked in the first round, unless an absolute STUD like Calvin or Andre is around. Everyone destroyed the Rams for making Donnie Avery, out of Houston, the first WR taken, and the Packers taken Jordy Nelson out of K-State, over the likes of Limus Sweed,James Hardy, Malcolm Kelly, DeSean Jackson. But besides Jackson, those two made bigger impacts then the other three. Considering the 'experts' predicted Sweed to be the next big thing. If we take a WR, it better be Britt. We've lacked a big WR since Key, and I don't want another small guy that can run over the middle; we have that in Cotchery and Stuckey. You say you want a big physical receiver, yet you want to take a guy who is 6'1 who runs over the middle. How about a 4.4, 6'4 guy to throw the fade routes too, the hardest route in the NFL to defend. I don't deserve to post? lmao, I'd love to bump this thread up in about two years, giving Nicks who is suppose to be the next Boldin according to you, plenty of time to adjust to the league and see how he does.
I used to repeat this shit like a mantra. I attribute it to Peter King, but it might be someone else's original statement. "Don't draft a running back in the first round, it's a waste of a pick! Plenty of value later on!" Ladainian Tomlinson was the first back picked in 2001. Steven Jackson was first in 2004. AD was first in 2007. Fuck Peter King, I want Beanie.
Till he gets hurt and the media forever labels him Beanie Baby. Give me Shady if we're gonna take a back.
Beanie Wells is not LT, nor Steven Jackson, nor Adrian Peterson. He's just not. this year has no clear number one running back, or a stand out running back. There is plenty of good value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
That's a good reason not to draft him. He was injured in college. Don't draft that Peterson fella, either. Broken collarbone. And watch out for Jackson. Busted knee.
You gotta stop dragging Jackson into this discussion. He's got a busted knee every year. I wouldn't want Jackson. Bitches about money every year, and gets hurt almost every year. Great talent, but too injury prone, and not worth the money risk. You've listed two players. Peterson to me doesn't count because he had freak injuries. C'mon, collar bone? That heals he's as good as new. Beanie's fragile. I'll pass. And it's not just because of the injuries. I'm more impressed with Moreno and Shady. I think Beanie plays a little soft, and personally think he's going to be an NFL failure. Could be wrong, but I hope we pass on him.
Better yet proving my point? You don't take receivers in the first round unless they are 100% going to be studs, a la Calvin and Andre. If you look at the amount of stars/starters now between RB and WR, more WR come from the later rounds then do RBs. RB is a position that is 'plug and play', you give the ball to the RB, he runs, in a nutshell. There is pass blocking, and receiving, but for the most part, its running. You look at a receiver, he has to learn the routes, the audibles (yes same for RB, but it is different for a receiver), the run blocks, the pass blocks. The expectations for a receiver drafted i the first is high, and it can't be filled a decent amount of time. And now with the news of Jones not reporting to conditioning camp, who thinks our chances for a RB increased? I doubt they give him a new contract, maybe a two year extension if that, he is old and RBs wear down quickly.
that's not true at all... people want to see what he's got behind an oline as he was a 2nd round pick... if he sucks balls we can get one next year instead of wasting a high pick on one this year instead of filling other holes... you sir, are the joke
the more stuff that comes out of your mouth, the more credability you lose. Guys like Charles Rogers were suppose to be 100% studs. It happens with every position, that's just the nature of the draft. Your arguments don't make any sense whatsoever. You haven't given one good reason why you like Beanie Wells so much, and why he is the answer. You also haven't given any sort of incite on why D.Brown, Shonne Green, McCoy, Moreno aren't guys that can help our football team. Why Beanie at #17'?
WR is one of the positions we are weakest at. Our young prospects at the position are an unproven former 5th round pick who has barely played and whose first team cut him, a 4th year former college QB who has done nothing as a receiver, and a former 7th rounder in Stuckey. And while I like Clowney and Stuckey, I like them a lot more as the 3rd and 4th receiver who could challenge for the #2 than as the 2 and 3. I just want someone else to compete with those two.
Well. With all due respect: those young kids not getting their chances despite their potential is not their fault - it's more a fault of Manmoron. Also, that's the same mistake Herm made with Cotch; and I am not willing to hold their "lack of experience" as their problem until proven otherwise (by totally sucking on the field.)
