Not first time Scott has done this

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  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    except you're assuming that the Jets weren't well aware of this going into negotiations and are somehow being victimized by his actions. it is intellectually dishonest to project your anger onto the Jets as being victims in this matter. the Jets are willing participants in these negotiations.

    the Jets are allowing this to occur. they could have told him that he has to either accept the offer or not. instead, they allowed him to simply agree to the terms, which in turn allows him to continue to shop around. if anything, the Jets are disrespecting themselves by allowing a player to manipulate them, but that doesn't serve your agenda of wanting to vilify Scott and victimize the poor Jets.
     
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  2. Hemi

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    Exactly, the Jets may have been told this is the plan all along.
     
  3. hookteeth

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    Well with Vilma gone, they just have to overpay Scott. If they would have jumped on Vilma we wouldn't be trying to outbid Baltimore right now. Scott is no better than Vilma in my opinion. I think Vilma's stats are even better than Scott's.
     
  4. YOYOYO

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    Then why are the Jets getting screwed over?
     
  5. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    I don't do agendas.. I don't make excuses either for bad faith bargaining as you do. He got his cash and he damn well better be worth it too. If not, you will be making excuses for that too.

    Whatever floats your boat man..
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Because they're allowing this to happen that's why. If they knew going in that Scott was gonna pull this shit, then they should have lowballed him and started the bargaining at a much lower price point. As it is, they may have overpaid in allowing Scott to pull the same shit on the Jets that he pulled on the Browns..
     
  7. JetBlue

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    again, you can't claim it to be bad faith without believing the Jets were not well aware that this would or could occur, because if they were well aware they were active participants, and if they were active participants it could not be in bad faith -- it was mutually agreed upon. so, by continuing to call it bad faith, you have to be claiming that the Jets were not aware of this, and were thus victims by his behavior, not participants in it. considering you don't know that, you clearly do have an agenda to vilify Scott for the sake or making the Jets out to be victims of his behavior. you can't have it both ways.
    they can't be getting screwed over if they willingly allow something to occur.
     
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  8. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    As much as I would like to continue with this, there's no way we're changing any minds here so that effort would be fruitless. If the Jets knew this going in, then they were stupid for setting their initial offer so high OR stupid for allowing themselves to be pitted against the Ravens AFTER a deal had been agreed to. You can spin this anyway you want Blue. It was bad faith bargaining on Lewis's part if he knew Scott wasn't serious about the first offer and accepted it anyway OR Lewis allowed his client to put his credibility in question by accepting offers without his client's consent. If he had Scott's consent, then it definetly was bad faith bargaining by agreeing to an initial deal (notice not an "offer") they both knew would be refused.

    Sure the Jets got played and it cost them an extra 8 mil. Maybe they learned a lesson about dealing with shady clientele and maybe they didn't. Like I said, Scott had better be worth it or the only fan he'll be able to depend on for excuses is you.
     
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  9. Long Time Jet Fan

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    Tell me what you will offer so I can go back to the other team and see if they will give me that in which case I will join them is bullshit, anyway you look at it.
     

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