Rob johnson...etc...Flavor of today. Me and my neighbor huddled around the Friday night fire were talking. He is a Miami fan. We came up with 3 QBS worth a first round pic...Manning, Brees, and Big Ben...No QB outside Peyton merited 2 first round picks.
Nobody has Cassell rated any higher than a 2nd round pick. I don't know where this garbage starts. You do know he is 26 and already been in the league 4 years, right?
This is a moot argument. The Patriots aren't going to trade Cassell until they are certain Brady is ok, and that won't be until the end of camp. No team is going to trade a future first round pick for Cassell unless they can do it in time to get Cassell in for their offseason program and maximize the chances that he will make the transition to their system. So he isn't going anywhere in 2009. Now assuming that Brady is not back and ready to go by the season opener, then Cassell will have 4 to 8 games to take the Pats job outright and either will do so convincingly or won't. If he does take the job then Brady will get traded the following offseason. If Cassell doesn't take the job he won't be worth anywhere near a first round pick. The only way that the Patriots get to trade Cassell for a first is if they hold their nose and jump now, before the 2009 draft, and before they know that Brady is healthy. I just don't see it happening. Cassell may well be worth a first round pick, but once he has proven that the Patriots are more likely to let Brady go. Joe Montana got traded.
It would take 2 #1's if some team signed him while he had the franchise tag, but the Pats could easily negotiate a trade for any price they wish. And this is Detroit we are talking about. Anybody who thinks Matt Millen was the only retarded monkey in their FO doesn't understand reality. Retarded monkeys facilitate retarded monkeys.
blah b lah blah Cassell is overrated. never would happen. if it did id expect Lions fans to take pitchforks to every Ford dealership.
Pats don't want/need a top pick in draft. They might swap picks with KC in round one and then trade out for multiple picks. There are alot of scenarios that could play out, including keeping Matt. Pats have the cap space if absolutely needed and Brady isn't ready to go in regular season. Since the injury to Tom happened the first game, he has plenty of time to rehab. I'm not sure if his health is going to be a concern as he is a workout warrior. There are about 5 teams that could use his services and there is a big risk/reward with rookie QB's. How many times does a Matt Ryan come along? Most take time to get acclimated to the NFL. Cassel already has 4 years experience and 11 wins under hios belt. He is battle tested. Pioli knows what this kid can do so KC may be his destination if he can work out a deal that is win-win.
No. He's not that valuable to begin with, and the Pats don't want it anyways. BB always says that the best value is at the end of the first round. So I think they would much rather get a low first and possibly a second/third for him. They don't have that much cap-room and they don't need an impact player at any position. They probably want to add some depth to their o-line, pick up a few linebackers, and add maybe add a safety. Besides that I would think their main priority has got to be re-signing Vince Wilfork. And again, that comes goes back to cap-space. And I think they will absolutely trade Cassel sometime between now and April. Keeping him makes it difficult to make any other moves due to the cap space, and his value only diminishes the longer he stays around. The Pats will be confident enough in Brady's rehab to trade him, I think. The acl tear is overrated.
Agree about that scenario with many possibilities and there are a few teams that would be interested in acquiring him. Pats have 2 second round picks this draft (Chargers pick) and picking up an additional second and third would be where BB likes to draft. The 49'ers could also be another trading partner. Patriot fans tend to give too much value to Cassel and other fans tend to downplay his 11 wins. Coaches and managers will evaluate how much he is worth to their team. A deal will be reached probably well before draft day. If not, it might be due to Brady's rehab and BB wants to keep him as insurance. Franchising him is the only option BB had.....
It's incompletely but not too out there. Of course there would need to be a contract in place pre-trade. But if the Lions can get one in place it looks very feasible. What is the most the Lions can get out of the #1 pick? A franchise signal caller. Cassel had a heck of a season, will likely come MUCH cheaper than any #1 pick contract, and already has experience and performance. If the Lions think he is a franchise signal caller they could very well pull the trigger. It does make sense. Franchise QB is the best thing a #1 pick can get you, if they think Cassel is a surer bet than Stafford at being that---- it's not farfetched.
If the Detroit Lions give up the first overall pick for Matt Cassell, the NFL should swap the Lions for the top team in the CFL. Even Matt Millen wouldn't be dumb enough to make that trade (he might do it for Randy Moss though, he does like the WRs).
Cassell does not command the first overall pick in the draft...... get real. I'd be cautious about giving away #20 too... He has one decent year under his belt with a ton of talent in a great system.
It's not going to happen, but the Lions wouldn't be that crazy if it did happen.If they decided that the number one need that they have as a team is a young, up-and-coming quarterback, then why is trading the number one overall pick for Cassel any different than using than selecting Stafford or Sanchez with that pick? He's more of a proven commodity than either of the two, and he probably has higher upside. Anyone who says that Cassel isn't worth at least a second round pick is crazy. Unlike Derek Anderson,he improved over the course of the season and only got better with each game. A 26 year old that can play qb at a high level something most teams would love to have, and this particular off-season there happens to be a lot of teams without quarterbacks, coupled with a weak draft at the position. This is the perfect market to trade Cassel.
Alot of people don't seem to realize that the Pats IR list was pretty substantial in 2008....along with key players missing games during the season.....and Cassel STILL managed 11 wins....he also got 2 losses against him due to circumstances beyond his control..... Chargers,Pitt and Miami's first wildcat game were probably losses even if Brady played....Jets and Colts were winnable games.... Brady,Harrison,Thomas, Maroney all were on IR......add to those Wheatley, Alexander, O'Callaghan..and injuries to Morris,Jordan,Woods.... Bringing back Seau and Colvin in December should have been a clue that Pats were hurting on defense.....yet they still managed to finish strong..... Pats get a second and maybe swap 3rd rounders if the team that wants Cassel has a top ten pick.....like I said earlier, lots of scenarios including getting a pick and a player.
Cassel has value to a team that needs a strting QB......the teams that need his services will decide his value......not MB warriors....
If they signed him, which they wouldn't. They'd work out a trade and then sign him. But no, I don't think it will happen.
