I remember when the media was foaming at the mouth with hate for Mangini when he took over the Jets. He wouldn't exactly communicate with the media then and it caused them to make up all manner of stories imaginable about him and how his team was dealing with him, blah, blah, blah. It all turned out to be garbage. Now we are hearing much of the same thing with him in Cleveland. I wouldn't believe everything you read in the paper. Wait and see how his team comes out and plays the next couple of years. That will be the real barometer of success.
I saw rhis also, despite the fact i HATED Mangini, i really thought he would benefit greatly from the release, and adjust his style and go on to be a good coach.. I see i was clearly mistaken.. hes right back to his asshole style..
The only thing I would point out about this is that many people who thought Mangini shouldn't have been fired said that he would learn from his mistakes the second time around. The stuff so far has nothing to do with mistakes on the field, but this is certainly exactly the same mistakes off the field that he made here. I just wonder if his immediate rehiring by Cleveland has led him to think that he doesn't need to change anything from what he did in New York (most coaches who are fired have to take coordinator jobs, and I think learn a little humility along the way). If it is the case that Mangini thinks he can pick up where he left off with no changes, I think the results will be the same, and he'll eventually lose the players, the fans, and then ownership, just as he did here.
You do make a great point about his swift re-hiring. It is very easy to see him being disgruntled with the Jets and taking a "I was never wrong" approach to his new position. If he does then he dooms his future chances. I still think he'll fare alright in the end, but we'll have to wait and see. I don't necessarily see him being one of the great ones, but I do think he can be a good coach in the league, but like you pointed out - he has to learn a few more things about doing the job.
i think he pulls a Kotite... Kotite did well with the Eagles, and then he came here and did what he did. Mangini's Browns are Kotite's Jets.
I though Maningi would be smarter and start to learn from his mistakes. He definitely has some ways to go as far as communication abilities. I am surprised he didn't make a serious effort to correct his previous flaws.
alot of the blurbs coming from Jets players now seem to solidify Mangini's withdrawn demeanor and lack of relationship with players though. I think Mangini is a technician and disciplinarian you respect the preparation and such. but Rex Ryan seems to be a players coach, IN A GOOD WAY. not the Herman Edwards way. In the same way that when the guy talks youd think hes suited up in the huddle, making you want to exterminate someone via textbook tackle. and when people hear players coach they instantly think lack of X's and O's. i thnk the Ravens players have given him nothing but praise for the defensive coaching/ planning he brought to them. basically I dont think Mangini was THE reason for the collapse but a lack of in game/halftime adjustements was more than evident and id rather have a coach with a longer defensive track record not to mention glowing reviews from every coach and players hes worked with. and were talking praise from the likes of Trevor Pryce, Terell Suggs, Ray Lewis, Samari Rolle, and Ed Reed. not Matt Chatham and Ty Law. if I'm a browns fan im crying thinking we get another broken branch of the so called "Bellicheck Coaching Tree" which as shown to be a withered plant where only the roots even cheated to get planted
