Rob Burnett Talks about Rex Ryan on ESPN Radio

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Altoona, Jan 20, 2009.

  1. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2007
    Messages:
    11,659
    Likes Received:
    468
    I thought since there is no collective bargaining agreement in place for 2010 that contracts cannot be reworked to change the cap until another agreement is in place? I could be wrong.
     
  2. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,174
    Likes Received:
    160
    Haha , or maybe because hes a winner....he does look fat though , still take him in a heartbeat though.
     
  3. jdon

    jdon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,481
    Likes Received:
    527
    We need NT dedpth. Pouha sucked. When Jenkins got hurt and the double and triple teams stopped, our entire D went south. Without run stopping we were doomed. One thing the Ravens did very well Sunday was stop the run.
     
  4. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,174
    Likes Received:
    160
    I also want to see what Ryan can get out of our (so far) waste of a first rounder
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    nm............................it's only 3.5 million instead of 5...shoot me. While your at it tell me where the money is coming from to sign Baltimore's FAs too.

    http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary09.html
     
    #25 Don, Jan 21, 2009
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2009
  6. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,174
    Likes Received:
    160
    I agree , unless theres a second miricle at the meadowlands , we are screwed , cap wise this year , 3.5 / 5 does it really matter ?
     
  7. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    12,286
    Likes Received:
    3,954
    Backloaded deals.

    The Jets need to clear enough room to cover rookies and signing bonuses, and the rest can be pushed back to when the cap expires.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    The bigger thing is that they want to keep Favre. How many contracts can they possibly restructure to do that and sign their draftees?
     
  9. skorol75

    skorol75 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    0
    There is no doubt in my mind Woody made a good choice hiring Ryan. Of course it wouldn't hurt if Woody spent 1/2 a day less vacationing and actually met with Cowher, who was by far the best HC available, but that's history. I remember 3 years ago we heard a lot of good things about Mangini. Been with Belichik for 10 years, knows all his schemes, respected by players, all the good stuff, just like Belichik himself was to Parcells. And I still think Mangini has these qualities. But when you are first time HC, sometimes it takes a few years to become legit SB contenders. Will Ryan get a fair chance? It takes time to make the team into legit contender and it does take HC experience. Does anyone know the stats on how many first time HC won SB in first 3 years vs how many experienced coaches (more than 3 years) won it? Ryan is not Bill Belichik, and even Bill had to get extremely lucky with Brady (darn the Jets for injuring Bledsaw) to make NE contenders after he went 5-11 in his first season. Being optimistic is all good, but you gotta look 3 years back to realize this is the same situation right now. The difference is Mangini got 4 win team, Ryan gets 9 win team. I hope he can build on that, but that's certainly not an easy task, especially for first time HC.
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    I believe that if Ryan were to have the exact same first 3 years that Mangini had he would still be kept and the reason is that he won't be hated by almost everybody in town the way Mangini was. Personality goes a long way in NY. Especially with the media.
     
  11. ScotsJet

    ScotsJet Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,782
    Likes Received:
    0
    So far as I can tell 9 of the last 10 listed players were not on the 52 man roster at the end of the year. That's a lot of money to drop off when they're cut in or before camp.
     
  12. ScotsJet

    ScotsJet Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,782
    Likes Received:
    0
    In fact, these guys could be cut and save some money:

    Favre, Brett QB $13,000,000
    Moore, Brandon G $5,461,187
    Barrett, David CB $3,710,000
    Bowens, David LB $2,600,000
    Baker, Chris TE $2,100,000
    Pouha, Sione DT $500,000
    Kassell, Brad LB $620,000
    Smith, Eric S $530,000
    Hunter, Wayne T $627,280
    Coleman, Drew CB $530,000
    Herron, Noah RB $542,280
    Brown, Kareem DT $467,280
    Hodges, Reggie P $460,000
    Ihedigbo, James S $392,280
    Mason, Marcus RB $392,280
    Woodhead, Danny RB $384,332
    Caulcrick, Jehuu RB $317,280
    Cummings, Kenwin LB $317,280
    Daniels, Stanley G $317,280
    Henry, Marcus WR $317,280
    Pitoitua, Ropati DT $317,280
    Renkart, Brandon LB $317,280
    Schaefering, Brian DT $317,280
    Whittaker, Huey WR $317,280

    That's a total saving of $34,855,159 leaving us $18,271,034 or so under the cap.

    Moore may be restructured rather than cut, but I can't see them giving him $5m unless they have no other realistic choice.
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    If everyone drops off we are still over and they still have to be replaced at the same league minimum salary.
     
  14. Jet Blue

    Jet Blue New Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2003
    Messages:
    2,528
    Likes Received:
    0

    Not really.


    Mangini was a DC for ONE year and the Pats players considered him a bit conservative on defense and they had to change things as they went - He was NOT highly respected and considered a "Mad Scientist" and didn't come with these reviews like Rex....

    Maybe some people were just as confident in Mangini - Put it this way I was JUST AS HOPEFUL - But, Confident?????? No way - Mangini was a Ball boy who accomplished nothing yet who also had to install a 3-4 defense and change players over.. Rex is HIGHLY accomplished already and already has the pieces for the 3-4.. I credit Mangini a ton for assembling a some good talent and some overall good Players but, now it's time ofr a real man to COACH them up and ATTACK Qb's!!!!!


    Man, it kills me how people pretend this the same old... yeah, coaches fail and Rex can go any which way like hundreds of other respected coaches..

    BUT, this is NOT Herm Edwards or Mangini.... This guy COACHES circles around both of those guys and is actually the perfect COMBO of those guys...

    He's the Coach players love Like Herm (NOT Mangini)

    And he's the Book Smart "Football Guy" like Mangini (NOT Herm) - Though Mangini has yet to prove he can apply the book smarts to the field.
     
  15. ScotsJet

    ScotsJet Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,782
    Likes Received:
    0
    Of course, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for manoeuvre. Particularly with guys like Barrett, Bowens, Moore, Favre and Baker.
     
  16. Jet Blue

    Jet Blue New Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2003
    Messages:
    2,528
    Likes Received:
    0


    I'd bet my house that Rex could not have the "exact" 3 years - I don't think that collapse could happen the same way becasue I don't think Rex would ever sit back and let mediocre QB's pick his defense apart while rushing 3 guys with no imagination like we saw the last 5 weeks.... THAT is what doomed Mangini BEING PASSIVE -on the field and off.

    Rex might have his own problems and that lokks like it could be QB and injuries - remember Mangini's teams were remarkably healthy, another reason he had little excuse to drop an egg like he did.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    The problem obviously is Favre. If he comes back and they say they want him back we will be about 20 million over once the draftees are signed. I have no idea where that money is coming off from.
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Messages:
    19,492
    Likes Received:
    41
    Wow, some significant changes since the last time I looked at that. Most notably, the Kerry Rhodes bonus is way more than originally listed. He misses the increase in the salary cap there though, which will be at least $3 million.

    There's no way Rhodes should be making over $10 million in '09. No way. Ed Reed doesn't make that much in the best year of his current contract.
     
  19. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    He shows the cap at 123 million and I believe that is what it is.
     
  20. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Messages:
    19,492
    Likes Received:
    41
    You're right that is after the 6% increase.
     

Share This Page