Not only are they afraid to hire him, they're afraid to even mention him as a true top tier guy. It's all Ryan and Spags with some Russ Grimm sprinkled in. I get the feeling he could be the best candidate for the job but the Jets organization is fearful of the backlash. Jets fans want the sexy candidate right now, the top assistants. Well they don't always materialize into great head coaches! And knowing the Jets luck and karma, Ryan will be the next Bruce Coslett while Schottenheimer wins multiple Super Bowls somewhere. I've been reading posts from Jet fans stating they would actually boycott the team if Schotty is the coach! Wtf? Woody needs to butt out and let the football people make the choice. I hate the fact that he's "enamored" and pushing for Ryan. Woody is not a football guy and his meddling here could be very costly. The fans have too much say in this, Woody has too much say. There is unnecessary pressure from PSL's (Ryan = charismatic pick, tickets sold, Schotty = ridiculed as same ol') This is not the way it should be.
Schottenheimer was very good his first year here. He's been nothing since. Did teams catch on and he didn't adjust or did Mangini hamstring him? Who knows? But based on performance alone, Ryan and Spannuolo have been more affective.
I don't have much, but he interviewed last year and interviewed well. In fact, he withdrew himself from Dolphins consideration or he might've ended up with the job. He didn't have much talent to work with in 06, even less in 07...this year he did a good job imho and there are rumors that Mangini tied his hands to some extent...you can choose to believe this or not. Also, drawing on Jetluck, watch us hire Ryan...he comes in with so much fanfare, fizzles out and Schotty wins super bowls somewhere else.
I'd rather have a "hot" assistant with proven success at their position than someone like Shottenheimer who has not proved much.
Seriously, he is as much a shot in the dark as Ryan or Spagnulo, but he has proved less then either of the other two, interviewing and actual coaching are to different avenues
Clearly they aren't afraid to mention him as a top tier guy because he has been mentioned as a top candidate. I stopped reading after that.
You guys.. so naive.. Of COURSE he will be mentioned as a top guy! They want to have the option of him staying on with a new coach. I personally don't think the Jets have ANY intention of hiring Schotty at all and never did. But in order to at least try to keep him, they have to 1. interview him, and 2. say he is a top candidate so he sticks around long enough thinking he has something until they can hire another coach and hopefully keep schotty at OC. Plus, saying that he was the top candidate earlier on in the process made the other candidates want it more.. It's all a cat and mouse game. I think they already have their guy picked out and they have for a long time.
And of course he's still under contract to the Jets, who would have to let him go if he were to work for any other football team.
First of all your post is a contradiction of itself, BS is a coordinator just like Rex so neither has an advantage when it comes to that aspect. Second if you say firing BS is SOJ then what if we promoted him? The other half of the posters would say SOJ. I just don't know what qualifies Schott for the job. Other then the Dolphins interview last year (Adam Sandler voice: ooooo Dolphins interview!), I don't see what he's done on the field to make the case.
I think Schotty could be a fine coach. I think anyone can be a fine coach if they have a good staff around them and a good head on their shoulders. I mean, who knew Mike Smith or Tony Sparano could lead those teams to the playoffs? I'd be up for giving Schotty a chance. Is he my favorite choice? No, but I still trust Tannenbaum to make the right decision, and I'll give the new coach the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
Best part of this thread. Yes, how dare Woody be enamored with the more qualified candidate. He may be a moron but he can't be wrong all the time (I hope).
I'm with you Allan1! Brian should be promoted, and be able to hire HIS own staff. He's paid his dues. The same people who say he's a terrible play caller had no problems with the plays when we were 8-3. These same people were the ones saying Chad would never throw a pass again...3 years ago. That Herm was a terrible coach...who got us to the playoffs 3 out of 5 years. There is no logic involved when you have diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the mind. I want Schott, but unlike many, I'm not making empty threats of boycotting the team if Woody chooses otherwise. For their sake alone, I'd love to see Woody choose Schotty and weed out the weakness in our fanbase.
I can't believe there are people that would actually want Schottenheimer as the Jets HC. He's been a shitty coordinator and certainly hasn't shown anything that would indicate he'd be a successful HC. The "other teams are interested in him" angle is just as ridiculous. Was anyone here clamoring for the Jets to hold onto Cottrell when he was getting interviewed by other teams? Sure he was only interviewed because of the color of his skin, but it's basically the same thing for Schottenheimer, except because of his last name.
i think people get interviewed the same way you interview a prospect during the draft.... its to get a feel for them and if you like them enough you pull the trigger... schotty is being interviewed as a last choice candidate... i'd rather take the guys with years of consistent success than the OC of the new york jets who had one good year.
What are you kidding me? Ryan is just a better candidate. Why? It's hard to say really because he had a lot of talent to work with in Baltimore. But if you take that coin and flip it, so did Slottenheimer, and he couldn't distinguish himself in any of his 3 years as coordinator. I'd like to know whats leads you to believe that Slottenheimer is the guy for the job. I don't see it at all. In fact, I think he'd be an utter disaster and we'd looking for another coach in 2 years.
