I can't help but wonder how a guy with so many weapons at his fingertips managed to become so predictable and unimaginative, especially after some of the well-called and unexpected plays we say in various situations at the beginning of the season. Coles may be falling off and is probably at the low end of #1 WRS, but Cotchery is legit in his spot and I think he is one of the better #2 guys in the league. Chansi Stuckey does a great job getting open and he is very quick, and we don;t know what we have in Clowney because he wasn;t given a chance to do anything, but the expectation is that he can be a deep threat. Brad Smith has been underutilized his entire career, and even though he isn;t the greatest WR, he is a utility player that needs to get in every game. At TE there's Keller, who looks like the real deal and is a guyt o be excited about. And if we don't want to telegraph pass plays, there's Baker who can still get open on the short to medium passes and can block well for you too. At RB, the guy I really want to hang on to is Washington. I mean, Thomas Jones must stay because I don't think Leon is an every down guy, but he is such a threat out there and catches people off guard. There's so much more that we could have done with him. Jones needs close to 20 carries each game, but I also think that Leon should get in on runs and passes every game too. People rave about Darren Sproles.....we Leon is better, and we need to hang on to him, which means we must use him. Add to all of this an offensive line that looks like they can be effective for a few years, and you have a package of talent that I would put up with just about anyone in the league.
reason 1- he had the best running game in the afc reason 2- he had his qb taken away at the start of the season reason 3- he was handed an interception machine with no time with the jets reason 4- he had to re-write his playbook on the fly reason 5- behind closed doors, he pointed out the way he wanted to run the offense but was over-ruled by mangini. he gave numerous examples of this and how it turned out bad for the jets offense. he had 27 plays designed to get washington the ball but mangini and farve shelved all but 1 of them. reason 6- shotty convinced woody he digs chicks with burnt hair and has a real shot at turning his gay daughter around. reason 7- tanny needs favre to return and 'light it up' to prove he was 'right'. and the only way favre comes back is if he gets his own personal offensive coordinator. reason 8- they dont want him going to ne or miami
Not exactly. Our wide recivers are below average. Coles I don't think would start for many teams in the NFL and Cotchery is a solid #2 that lacks speed. We have no proven wide recievers who are deep threats. The offensive line still struggles in pass protection. Keller and Leon are the only dyanamic players we have on offense. Not to mention we don't even have a proven qb. You said you take our talent against anyone in the league? Well I would take all of these teams offensive talent before ours: New England (Great line, Brady/Cassel, Welker, Moss, Watson) Buffalo (Good line, Lynch, Evans are better then anything we have, Roscoe is a game breaker) Pittsburgh (Average line, Parker, Miller, Big Ben, Hines, Santurdio, young players developing) Baltimore (very good line, Young developing qb in Flacco, good running backs) Indy (no question) Texans (Andre Johnson and Steve Slayton) SD (Rivers, LDT, Gates, Jackson etc..) Denver (Cutler) Giants (Great line, Jacobs, Eli) Philly (Great line, Mcnabb, Westbrook, not the most talented but better personnel) Dallas Washington (Moss, Portis, Randel El, Cooley) Green Bay (Good offense, young qb, good line) Carolina (Steve Smith, nasty running game) Atlanta (Ryan, Turner etc.. New Orelans (Brees) You can argue all of these teams have more offensive talent then the Jets. Oh yeah did it mention we don't have qb or a #1 reciever? Green Bay
I would have to disagree with your assessment of our talent on Offense. Even though I agree that Schitty has to go. I grade our offense as follows , this is not based on history or career or potential , it is based on their level of play on 2008. QB (C-) - Favre #21 in passer rating , 22 ints thats almost 1.5 per game (he is old and overrated) with no Backup to speak of RB (B+) - Leon and TJ a Solid Tandem but we lack a true power running back OL (B) - Except for Mangold , they all have weaknesses especially D'Brick in run Blocking and Woody in Pass Protection. TE (C+) - Keller showed some flashes that's it, way to many dropped passes, dissappeared down the stretch when it mattered most, not a very good run blocker. Bubba F (lol) - Baker is a solid 2nd TE WR (C-) - I was a huge Coles fan a few years back but he is not at par with most teams 2nd WR - the sames goes for Cothchery - on a good offense these guys are #3 WR's. Hopefully Keller can develop and they can either sign Baker or get a legitimate Run Blocking TE. The you need to address the QB situation- I think we need to go out of the organization and pick up someone, then you need a serious upgrade ar WR to really be an offense that concerns people.
i agree with you completely, although I think Coles and Cotchery did everything they could do this season. Especially considering Robert E. Lee being their QB.
Favre played horrible down the stretch and killed this team and the Jets still finished in the top 10 in scoring. Schotty didnt do a bad job and a lot of people say that Mangini really took a lot of control away from his coaches and didnt let them do their jobs. I dont think Schotty is the problem.
The Jets lack speed on offense. Their receivers are good not great. The reason the offense stunk at the end was the QB. No offense can overcome those mistakes ans when you have those mistakes it puts to much pressure on the defense. The QB killed the team and the coach. The Jets get by getting rid of Favre. Schott is a good coordinator. Next year you will see the no huddle and plenty of motion, things Favre couldn't handle.
With Schotty staying around, I think you may need to prepare yourself for the probability that Favre stays another year. All of that lip service about the new HC being able to choose his own QB is just that... lip service. They're not only looking for a guy that won't get rid of Favre, they're also looking for a guy that won't get rid of Brian Schottenheimer. That is job criteria for our new HC.
tanny staked his rep on bringing in favre, and only way to save what's left of his rep is to bring favre back and hope he shines like he did in 2007 and at times in 2008. and the ONLY way favre comes back is if he still has 'shotty'. did it bug anyone else the way favre started using nic names for coaches like they were his equal and his best friends from day one?
I agree with you on this point....to BS defense....uuuuggghhh I can't believe I'm saying this but the reason the Jets stopped with multiple motion and went to 4 receiver sets was the fact that Brett did not like it and was more comfortable with multiple receivers and just being able to look at the defense without motion.
Joe Walton Part II. Offensive geniuses actually build offenses that can move the ball at will most of the time. The Waltons and Schottys of the world build offenses that look smoking and wind up a smoking wreck eventually.
I heard that a lot of the offense was tailored to Favre, who preferred to run plays out of the Shotgun spread. I'm not sure this was the right way to do it, but it's not like he didn't try and pound the run at other times.
Buffalo ???? You must be kidding !!! Thier offensive line SUCKS .... Lynch ( Mr. I get hurt all the time ) Evans ??? A marginal #2 at BEST ... Roscoe Parish ... Ho Humm .... They have NOTHING on that team that we don't have better So NO I can't argue that all these teams have more offensive talent than US ... Buffalo's starting quarterback MAY be slightly better than Clemmens and thier backup is just plain horrible ...
I actually consider Cotchery a slot receiver. I do not think he can deal with most of the starting CBs in the league. He can get open in a zone. We really need 2 guys ahead of him.
Well, let's see. If Favre decides to come back and Rex wants him back, maybe Schotty might be successful if we move up a bit in the draft and go for Crabtree. Can you imagine how Schotty and Favre could stretch the field with this guy and free up our other WRs? Check out this Crabtree U-Tube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN_ce47MOY
You forgot some. 1. When Carson Palmer is Healthy the Tandem of Houz and Chad Johnson is better than anything we have to offer. 2. Browns-Winslow and Edwards might be better than what we have. 3. Titans-Their Two back are as good as ours. 4. Vikings-Adrian Peterson will be better than anybody to ever wear a Jet Jersey. 5. Lions-Calvin Johnson will be revisited in a few years. Chances are he will be a star as well. 6. Panthers-Check their running attack as well. 7. Cards-How exactly did you miss Curt Warner Future Hof Qb throwing the Larry Fitzgerald or Anquan Boldin?
It really won't matter, because any way this turns out, we're only gonna have to have him around for 1yr. If he has this offense humming, and scoring points, he'll get a HC job, next season. If the team looks like shit, he'll get canned.
