I love how the media and then some fans pile on our team. I was not happy with the Monday press conference where our leaders could not give us a striaght answer on why Mangini was fired, and I do believe he was fired for the wrong reason, PSL's, but I was happy he was let go. That said, we are not the Detroit Lions. We have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball and I have 100% confidence in Mr. T. I thought most of his free agent signings have worked out and our last 3 drafts have been the best consecutive drafts this team has ever had. . Of course the nay sayers can point to bad picks and signings but overall, he has been great for us. So as long as Woody signs off on Mr. T recommendation and the new coach lets the fornt offiice (scouts and GM) do their thing, we are in good hands. And believe me, I am not saying we don't have issues, I just think the press is piling on.
The Jets are a Car accident that everyone stops to stare at right now. NO coach , spurned overtures from potential coaches and a story that keeps dribbling out about what was really going on behind closed door in Jet world. I cant blame the media and the fact that we aren't the Detroit lions is a good thing.....a real good thing! The Lions will eventually have a replacement for Marinelle and that means we will get our guy too. The one thing that I don't like about the media coverage is the half stories that come out and the complete reversal of others. Its tough to know what accurate and whats fluff.
I don't disagree but I find it mind boggling that everybody and their brother says that the Detroit coaching job is one of the best in football.
Probably based on the fact that you can't possibly do ANY worse than they're at now. Someone halfway competent will be seen as a savior....... and probably get free F-150s for life :grin: but it's still Detroit. edit:retardo typo
I have never been more disappointed with the team as an organization before this offseason. If reports are correct and the OWNER is meddling in PLAYCALLING, then the Jets absolutely deserve all the scrutiny and criticism they have been getting. Sure, we have a lot of talent, but so did the 80s Yankees. We need a proper team structure where the owner sits in his box and signs checks...that's it. Let the football people take care of the football aspect.
believe it or not the Lions have the fourteenth highest franchise value at the moment according to Forbes, higher than the Jets and the Giants. That must reflect ownership of their stadium or something because I can't believe the team is actually worth that much. http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html The Lions are worth more than the Yankees!
I think U ought to be listening to WFAN now & listen to Tannys role in the Cowher affair & you may make a total change of opinion in Tanny
The new Yankee stadium (which the Yankees own) is worth more than the entire Detroit team. Twice as much in fact. YES is worth more and the Yankees themselves are worth more.
The buildings are often worth more than the actual franchise....... If a team owns their own stadium (especially a dome) they're usually worth more based on the real estate alone.
My sister could coach a team to no wins.... Anything you do has to be better than this season for them ...Gotta figure you win a game you keep your job the first year
That's because of the new stadium. What the HELL does that have to with this thread. I spend time opening a thread and then someone chanhes the subject and the point of the thread is lost.
-We went 9-7 after starting 8-3 -Fired our HC after his 2nd winning season in 3 years total of coaching -Removed the HC in favor of a washed up QB because we need a face for PSL's -The QB we let go almost won the MVP after winning the division and taking a 1-15 team with less talent to the Playoffs. -We totally disregard a request of the #1 coaching prospect (Cowher) because our Woody was on Vacay.... You know what? Pile the fuk on! I hate the media and they do it all for money but this is one that doesn't need digging and isn't made up. All that shit happened.
Could have been the washed up QB you mention below, but more likely it was a combination of that, an injury to his arm and poor playcalling, 4th and one at Seattle's 2-YL, to wit, and numerous times during the 2nd half of those games in which Mangini stubbornly made little or no adjustment to his cast-in-stone, preconceived game plans. You bet. See reasons above. Also, finishing 9-7 after being 8-3 and in total control of your own destiny is not exactly the kind of motivational coach we should be looking for. Other questionable, stupid playcalling situations were, in some cases, downright embarrassing because even the TV announcers were piling on going, WTF? FGs when we should have tried for 6 with nothing to lose by turning the ball over to the other team and leaving them with lousy field position, or repeatedly ordering 30-yard bombs when all that was necessary to sustain the drive was 5 yards for a 1st down and 2 downs left in which to accomplish it and you've been running the ball like a freakin freight train. The PSL part cannot be proven and even if it could, it's safe to say it wouldn't have been the sole reason. Nor can it be proven that we released the HC "in favor of" the washed up QB. We do know Woody needs to sell those PSLs, but he does know we need to win also and Mangini doesn't provide that spark and can't adjust during games to pull out the wins necessary to fire up the fan base enough to take out their checkbooks in this economy. IMO, they both needed to go and Woody and Tanny pulled the trigger on Mangini and are just playing out their options with the QB by telling Favre to take his time deciding. For all they know the new HC might want to work with Favre one more time. If he doesn't, we still have the option of telling Favre to take a walk. This one I can't argue with. Chad had a hell of a year and the Dolphins were all playing way over their heads, IMO. Ricky Williams and Ronny Brown were key contributors. Parcells had a big hand in it also as did Sparano, who flat out worked his ass off this year under Parcells and made some damned good player adjustments and game-time playcalling decisions. The more that comes out on this, the more there's nothing to this allegation. Cowher smelled a huge cash cow in Woody and, despite Woody saying emphatically at the podium that he's not interested in anyone who wants total control, Cowher figured he'd try anyway. When he was told by Tannenbaum that Woody would get back to him next week, he abruptly pulled the plug like a kid taking his ball and going home because he felt snubbed. How dare the Jets dangle $13 Million in my face and then expect me to wait until next week? He didn't want the freakin' job anyway and this was his bullshit dance to see how far his ego could take him.
I finally listened to this instantly famous interview and its clear that Cowher had little interest in the Jets or any other team. I think some people on this message board only listened to what that jerk Carton said and not to Cowher himself. Its clear that Cowher is just looking at the merchandise and has no intention of buying. If he takes a job with another team this year I will take all this back, but I don't think Cowher wants to coach this year, or maybe even next year.
It's the same mindset as in 2003 when Marvin Lewis took the job with the Bengals. Anything even remotely reasonable was viewed as a miracle, and for 3 years it really seemed to be working out for him. Unfortunately, as we've seen, if it then goes bad no one remembers that, and now Lewis has run out of any more chances. I believe that that same attitude might get you 4 years in Detroit to turn it around rather than 3, but that's it; after that, if you don't win, you go. The Lions haven't had a coach make it through 4 seasons in the last 12 years, and unless their talent is a lot better than it's shown, that's probably not going to change for the next guy either.
We went 9-7 after starting 8-3. -Fired our HC after his 2nd winning season in 3 years total of coaching 1. So the HC had nothing to do with starting 8-3 and ending 9-7. Forget #'s for a second. As time went on, Mangini became worse at time and game management. I would have fired after the Seattle game which was the worst coach game I have ever seen from a Jet coach. Removed the HC in favor of a washed up QB because we need a face for PSL's 2. This does not make any sense. Mangini was the face for the PSL's? Favre is not coming back anyway. Mangini was fired because the fans wanted someones head to to roll and Woody caved in because 10% of PSL's are due in the spring. Right decision, wrong reason The QB we let go almost won the MVP after winning the division and taking a 1-15 team with less talent to the Playoffs. -We totally disregard a request of the #1 coaching prospect (Cowher) because our Woody was on Vacay.... 3. This is the best one of all. Great job by Chad in Miami, yes. I would not trade a # 7 pick in 2020 for Chad. Chad will never win a Championship and can not carry a team. We can go back on forth all day on this one. I never, ever want this QB on my team. And this Cowher bullshit is lame and you know it. Why does he need to meet with an owner within 7 days of a coaching vacancy? Does he need a kiss? I mean give me a break. "F" Cowher. He's just looking for some face time for his networks pre-game show and everyone in the media knows it. Its Woody bashing.
Yeah, he had everything to do with 8-3 when it should have been 11-0 or 10-1 at the worst. There is no excuse for this team not making the playoffs and you have to expect an angry mob attitude from the fan base. That attitude will continue if they don't have a proven coach and QB to start next year too.
How can you get to the playoffs with such a horrible QB? No team could overcome how many turnovers Favre was personally responsible for. Coaching, no coaching, etc. Like a former back-up goalie said, when asked about Mike keenan's role in the Rangers 1994 Cup run : "I do not remember Mike Keenan winning one face-off, or scoring one goal". Same thing here, the players have to execute.
