By which I mean to say that I think the odds are overwhelming that Parcells will have another QB starting for him by the beginning of next season, as he replaced O'Donnell after '97 when it was clear he was not going to be the key to a ring. What I'm not sure about is the timing involved. Will he replace Chad after the draft, assuming he drafts another guy to compete with Chad Henne next year? Will he replace him before the June 1st deadline? Will he wait until just before camp? Or will he let Chad compete all through camp? Will he bring in a veteran to compete with Chad during the free agent process? I can see arguments for all of the above, but I can't see an argument for Chad as the opening day QB next year given what happened against the Ravens and given how much the Dolphin offense bent to cover his weaknesses during the regular season this year. It's going to be a facinating thing to watch play out. Bill Parcells firing the #2 player in the MVP voting because he realizes he either has to improve the QB play or improve the rest of the team.
Earl Morrall was the league MVP in 1968. He started only two games the next year. Much of that was due to the fact Johnny Unitas was healthy in 1969. I wonder if the fact Morrall did not play well in Super Bowl 3 also had something to do with it.
And he was All-Pro in 1972 with a 9-0 record as a starter, and only started 3 more games in his career (because of Griese, of course). He had a pretty strange career - after being 27-27-2 as a starter in his first 12 years in the NFL, starting in 1968 (at the age of 34) he had a record of 33-4-1 as a starter for the rest of his career, but was always viewed as the capable backup, not the man.
Ugh, the game was so painful to watch. I haven't been on the internet until I told the Waitress to bring the damn check, slammed my beer before leaving rubber on the parking lot on my way out. I still don't know what to say, it's easy enough to translate what happend. Fuckin Dolphins
That fat ass will be quitting soon enough (just like he always does), so no real reason to speculate. Not to go off on a tangent, but no-one else was 'the key' after O'Donnell in NY, either. If Parcells comes back here I will personally run him over with a snow-plow - in the middle of August.
Hopefully Miami is dumb enough to get rid of Chad and go back to the years of musical QBs. This is different than 1997, Chad wasn't on Miami's roster a year ago. O'Donnell was for us in '96. Chad isn't making as much as neil was(compared to today), Parcells didn't acquire neil he inherited him. The situations are nothing alike.
This is what being on two absolutely dominant teams will do for a QB. There has never been a coach who coached as many great teams in a row as Don Shula did from 1967 to 1974. He hit one speed bump in 1969 when he went 8-5-1 and got kicked to the curb in Baltimore and then he went to the Dolphins and turned 3-10-1 into 10-4 overnight. It's not unusual to see a coach (Chuck Noll, George Allen, Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson) have a good long run with a single team. It's really unusual to see a guy move from team to team and pick it right backup again when he lands. Shula is also one of the most hexed coaches in NFL history. His 11-1-2 team in 1967 was ranked the best in football and didn't even make the playoffs. His 1968 team lost to the Jets in the Super Bowl. He also missed the playoffs in 1975 and 1977 with 10-4 squads.
I disagree on the "no-key" assertion. Vinny was definitely the key in 1998 and the absence of Vinny was the key in 1999. Then he got old pretty quickly and Parcells left town.
How can you disagree with that? Last I knew, we didn't get a ring out of it. And that last sentence there? That's the main reason I would never, ever want to see Parcells back here. For what, just so he can quit and walk away again when he doesn't win it all and pin it on some nebulous 'something else'? Queue in nyjunc, "...but he brought respectability to the Jets." Holy Crap.
Eleven years after the fact 1998 remains the single best season I've ever watched the Jets play. Without Vinny there's no magic that season and we don't get to the AFC championship game. So Vinny was the key, as evidenced by the excellent season (best by a Jet's QB since 1968 and still so) he put up and the 11 wins and a helmet score we got out of that. I agree on no Parcells. He's a serial quitter at this point and he's dying to quit on the Dolphins right now but there's too much attention and even his monumental ego isn't willing to go that far overboard. I bet he developes a "health" problem in the spring and retires again.
O'Donnell had a better arm then Pennington . I doubt Parcells drops Pennington this year. If he was really thinking of superbowl he probably should, but he has to think of selling tickets while looking for a replacement and come offseason, there won't be anyone better.
You are so far off on your facts and that wrecks your comparison of O'Donnell and Pennington. O'Donnel was brought in in 1996, before Parcells arrived and never had any connection to Parcells. Parcells drafted Pennington for the Jets in 2000 and was the guy who brought him to Miami. O'Donnell was coming off a SB appearance in 95 and led the 3-13 Jets to a 1-15 record in 1996 and then got hurt. Pennington came off a benching and a 1-7 record with the Jets and took the 1-15 Dolphins to 11-5 and a division title. Parcells dumped O'Donnell in 1998 in favor of Glenn Foley. Testaverde was brought here for veteran insurance. Foley hurt his ribs after leading the Jets to a 0-2 start. Testaverde started week 3 against the Colts and week 5 against Miami (week 4 was the bye) and then Parcells went back to Foley in week 6 against St. Louis. Foley stunk and was benched and Testaverde was named the starter in week 7 against the Pats and never relinquished the job. So Testaverde fell in Parcells lap in 1998. Parcells handed Foley the starting job over Testaverde twice before settling on Testaverde. How any of that has anything to do with Pennington is beyond me.
It was the best by a Jets QB EVER. Vinny was not to blame for Denver, he outplayed Elway but Vinny's teammates didn't show up.
