I hope we get an experienced coach who can build upon what we did the last few seasons instead of tear up the foundation to fit his needs. We can be a good 3 -4 defense. We have seen this earlier this season. We can move the ball on offense by running. TJ and Leon provide a nice tandem. The O-line is good enough to pound. The passing game is a question. We don't know about Favre. I for one, want him back but only if healthy and willing.
I guess it would help if I still lived in the NY area and had ACCESS to NY daily newspapers on a daily basis. Not a jab just facts. ;-)
They're available on the Web, and often people post the best links to NYC newspaper stories on the message boards... I'm just saying that a true Jets fans should be very eager to read what our hometown newspapers have to say about the team if they really want to know what's happening behind the scenes. Listening to us morons on this message board and our personal opinions can be entertaining, but the newspapers are more informative... (More informative than ProFootball Talk, even!)
This goes to the intangibles i have been talking about for two fvcking years. There has been disharmony on this team since the summer of 2007, which was temporariiy pacified when the team was 8-3. What owner of a company wants a manager who creates a difficult work environment. Employees work better when they get along in a non-hostile work environment. Fvck that cloak and dagger shit- i saw right through that bullshit. I'm sure the gina will get a job somewhere, as he seems to be a good interviewer. Compare that with Norm Chow, who is probably the worst interviewer for a HC position evah.
Hey Bosko...you know me...so no worries...I'm just saying...unless I weed through Gang Green thoroughly on a night to night basis I miss that which is here or there....I cannot go on tabloid alone...actually, being out here I rely on TGG more than I do the papers....that is why I need it to be as accurate as possible....it's my home away from home... Peace! The Mezz
Cheez WHIZ!!! I think this is the first nice post I have ever received during my entire tenure here! Anyhow, thanks for your post and I will try to post more about local news stories of interest to you out-of-towners. I hate repeating stuff, but will err on the side of completeness in the future when I can do so. Thanks so much for your message!
This would also explain why, at the press conference, Woody, and Tanny said the had been talking about letting Mangini go, during the course of the season. I'm sure word of this got to the FO, and they didn't like this one bit. I mean, if your coach is panicking, what would you expect the team to do? This may also explain why, at that dinner, the DB's were confused when talking coverages.
It would be unfair to critisize Mangini for not adjusting and than call his attempt to adjust to Shanahans putting all of our pimples on display a panic. Lets face it Denver dismantled our team and created a blue print to attack us on both sides of the ball. I don't give much credence to unnamed sources trying to protect their ass or get another job. We should have been doing more adjusting and if we had a better over all staff we may have avioded the collapse. How much of that is on Mangini we will never know but he is the guy in charge and rightfully took the fall. I was a big fan of Mangini but I do think he lost the team. I also believe we should have put a much more experienced staff around him the last two years. I give him credit for trying to adjust since that has been one of my main complaints about him.
Most definitely. He should have never been allowed to hire those two coordinators. Though going over the deep end after the Denver game is a little perplexing. Would it not have served better to just call plays from a 4-3 look for a week or two, to give the last couple of opponents too much to observe, and in the interim turn up the heat on the passer... I know that the defensive overhaul helped out last year, but they had the Bye week to do it. In the end, I still think he should have been retained, and the defensive staff fired, and an experienced OC brought in as an Offensive QC type/QB's coach (paul hackett....before everyone goes ballistic, realise, his offenses do the one thing B.S's does not...gets 4 yards on the corners consistently..If Brian fixes that, and gets a speedy wr..)
The Jet's defensive scheme never really worked under Mangini. They'd have games now and then where it looked like it was coming together but they never really clicked for any period of time. That's why he's gone now more than anything else, the 3-4 he was supposed to install never really worked. I doubt that he actually tore up the whole scheme after the Denver game and tried to install something else, he's not stupid and that would have been the low percentage move of all time at 8-4 with a patsy schedule ahead of the Jets and a wild card at minimum looking likely. My guess is that he tinkered with the system some, as he did in all of the bye weeks of his coaching tenure, and that the tinkering turned out not to be productive. That, along with the fact that 3-4 NT is a punishing position and Jenkins was 12 games into it for the first time in his career, more than explains the Jet's late season collapse on defense. A good defensive coach installs his system and it works and then struggles to get the offense up to par. Mangini never got to that point, like Crennel in Cleveland his defense just never got off the ground.
I was shocked and surprised when I read this report. I knew things went to hell but am still trying to understand exactly how. I figured this article would indeed stir some discussion. On the other hand, there isn't a great deal of meat to the reporting. Kind of a "she said" thing. I wonder if we'll ever really know. I imagine next year's results may be revealing, depending upon a number of factors.
I'd have to agree with this statement. I think the lack of a quality backup for Jenkins had a lot to do with our defensive problems at the end of the season. Pouha was just not good enough as a second-string NT. The two most important positions to have depth on a team are the QB and the 3-4 NT. And the Jets really had neither last year. If we had a solid backup NT, Jenkins could have gotten more rest both during games and as the season progressed. Big men like him just can't play that many snaps and stay fresh. And without Jenkins our run-D is just not the same. A guy like 2009 draft pick NT BJ Raji from Boston College is just what we needed. Too bad he wasn't available last year.
All of this underlying scheming aside, Favre still threw the ball to the wrong team way too much, and put the defense on the field too many times and killed too many drives like that, coaching or not. no matter what, if the Jets had a QB who did not throw 9 picks in the last 4 games, they go 12-4. It isn't like the defense gave up 45 points in any of those games.
i. i was never a mangini fan, despite all my shit talk, lol I coudnt believe they actually fired him 24 hours later... that makes allot of sense
I think all the conspiracy theories on Mangini getting fired are wrong. The Jets lost four out of their last five games, two to teams well under .500. That's enough to get a coach fired even under better circumstances than Mangini enjoyed after the nightmare in 2007. I'm guessing that at 9-5 Woody wasn't even contemplating ditching Mangini, and then the losses to the Seahawks and the Dolphins flipped him completely. Mangini's Jets had a bunch of opportunities not to fold down the stretch and only a really stupid call by Dick Jauron kept them from collapsing completely at the end of the season.
