Jets' owner, Woody Johnson, made the trip to Nashville to meet and dine with Jay Cutler on Sunday night. Johnson's presence was something of a surprise because owners do not usually take part in these sessions, but Johnson is becoming more involved with team operations. -- New York Times What very well may be a window into the Jets' thinking for the NFL Draft opened when big-armed quarterback Jay Cutler revealed that Eric Mangini and his staff told him how important it is for a quarterback to be able to weather the forbidding elements at Giants Stadium. -- New York Post Woody and Jay had Easter dinner. I know Chad was pissed about this.
"but Johnson is becoming more involved with team operations." Uh Geez... Let the football men do their work Woody please stay out of the picture.
Woody is one of the main reasons that the CBA got done. This is his team, if he wants to be there, he'll be there.
I think I'm starting to like the Woodman. He saw through Herm's bullcrap and canned his ass. Would have been easy to let him stay, re-sign him to an extention and then lived with fair-to-passable results. But he got aggressive, also kicked Bradway down a level, and at least gave us some hope. I don't get the feeling he's going to tell Tangini who to draft like Jerry Jones/Daniel Snyder might. Tangini might also slip him some Tylenol PM should the Woodman get out of line or a bit lippy.
Is anyone paying attention to whats going on, or is everyone so in love with particular players that all they see are Hearts floating around there heads like some goofy cartoon. The Jets are meeting with many of the potential top picks in the draft over a two week period. This is very smart for many reasons but it does in no way signify what they will do on D-Day. i am not a Cutler basher or supporter. I really don't know enough about him. Although I did watch his Highlight reel and must say I hope his accuracy can be improved cause almost every pass he threw would be picked in the NFL.
Being from TN I've bought into the hype about Jay Cutler .. Arm strength is God Given and Accuracy is developed (once timing is down) Jay has come a long way for someone that had an average Vanderbilt team to support him I'm not saying he's worth our number 4, but I am saying he's a better fit for the Jets then Leinart. Trade down and fill more needs
I hated the Cutler Hype and now that it has died down I can look at it without a biased eye. Cutler is NOT worth the 4th pick in the NFL draft, but he might very well be a good fit for the Jets. If we take him at 4, I'll be upset because there are better players in the draft, but if we can manage to trade down a few slots and still get him and maybe another 2nd rounder, I could live with the pick.
The two questions are: Who will be at 4? And, Who will be interested with the player at 4? The only way you get a trade down is if someone is interested in the player...I don't know if that will happen.
I'm really very pro-Cutler. He is far from a sure thing and I'm not sure that I feel comfortable taking him with the #4 pick--we'd really just be setting ourselves up for second guessing and disaster. But I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the new coaching staff and front office. If they want Cutler I'm behind them.
EDIT: Actually, I thought this over a bit and I think I want to give Chad and Ramsey a chance to prove themselves (one year) before I think about the position-too many other needs. I'm for trading down and perhaps picking up Justice, Davis, Ngata, or Bunkley in the 6-12 range if we trade down there and pick up an extra 2nd. However, if the Jets are all for Cutler, I'm behind them 100% until proven wrong (here's the old post-accidentally deleted it) You actually mirror my sentiments exactly. I think Cutler is more of a risk then Leinart, but may actually have the potential to do better in the league because of his tools, and his intengibles are supposed to be damn near top notch as well. Once again, his main knock is the exact opposite of Leinart-he's never really done anything in the win column. If we can somehow do something like a swap with the Raiders, I'd most likely do it. Assuming the draft goes like this: Bush Mario Leinart/Young We can get our QB at 7 in Cutler and then garner an extra 2nd rounder for OL help, so instead of getting, say, Brick at pick 4, we get a QB and an OL that has a first round grade (Jean-Gilles or Joseph at OG, Winston or McNiell for OT, etc.) or can pick up Mangold with 35 or 29 and pick up another position of need. To everyone saying that we sucked and deserved the 4th pick overall; yes, we did, but we sucked because we had so many holes to fill, and one Brick at 4 wouldn't help overall as much as a QB at 7 and a late-first-round graded OL in the 2nd round. Anyone have a draft value chart to see if this is a fair trade? Raiders 2nd round pick is pick #38.
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE, to trade down and take Jay Cutler, I just don't see any teams interested in our pick...
You may be right. I used the Raiders as an example because they have QB issues....but they could just as likely take Cutler or Young at 7 and not have to waste a pick. Doh!
I posted this on another thread and I still dont understand why people think that of Cutler. If he's gonna be pick that much then Cutler stats for '05 Comp ATT YRDS PCT TDS INT 273 462 3073 59.1 21 9 He threw the ball 137 times more then Young and had one less INT also threw the ball 31 times more than Leinart and had one more INT!!! Doesn't look like a INT machine to me. So Cutler throws an INT every 51 atts. while Young throws one every 36 atts and Leinart every 53 atts. So looks like Young will be picked more then any of the three!!!