Trade up with 29 and 35 .. how far can we go?

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Jets41815162342, Apr 16, 2006.

  1. Jets41815162342

    Jets41815162342 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    0
    Assuming we take the BPA with the 4th pick, how far can we move up by packaging our second 1st rounder and our 2nd rounder?

    If we see someone slipping, how far up could that package take us?
     
  2. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2003
    Messages:
    22,507
    Likes Received:
    77
    According to the Draft Value Chart, we could probably get the #12 or #13 pick. But other teams value picks differently, and I'm not sure if I'd want to give up those two picks.
     
  3. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2004
    Messages:
    12,435
    Likes Received:
    2,824
    I would prefer keeping our late first and early second...those picks could turn out to be awesome.
     
  4. SigmaXJet

    SigmaXJet Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Messages:
    2,484
    Likes Received:
    2
    we have too many holes, I doubt we would trade those picks, I'd rather see us stockpile players
     
    #4 SigmaXJet, Apr 16, 2006
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 20, 2005
  5. kellypkjoe

    kellypkjoe New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    Messages:
    266
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't think it pays to do that. Stock piling picks fills more holes. In a draft this deep with few standouts bodies count. This thought to over 40 players of first rounfdquality. No Elway's , Tomlinson's or Lawrence Taylor's, but a lot of potentional solid players with pro bowl potential.
     
  6. vilmas our future51

    vilmas our future51 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    Messages:
    253
    Likes Received:
    0
    I say we stay where we are b/c we could wind up with a couple of steals
     
  7. Jets41815162342

    Jets41815162342 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am all for staying put and letting the draft come to us. I only raise the question because I think a move like this has better chance of happening than going up from the 4 spot.

    Things will be shaking out by the 12-15 pick and Tangini will have a good feel for where things are headed by the 29th pick. If they love someone at 12 to 15 who they graded as a top 10 pick, it wouldn't be such a bad idea.
     
  8. 1028

    1028 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    1
    An interesting proposition indeed. With Bunkley recent rise up draft boards, Ngata may be one of the players that drops to that slot. Even Vernon Davis might be available (a little less likely). Who knows what theyre thinking
     
  9. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2005
    Messages:
    8,746
    Likes Received:
    299
    Hmm...
    Mario Williams #4 and DeAngelo Williams at #12?
     
  10. 1028

    1028 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hmm...
    Matt Leinart #4 and DeAngelo Williams at #12?

    Talk about a potent offense :up:
     
  11. New York Mick

    New York Mick Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2006
    Messages:
    686
    Likes Received:
    0
    #4 Mario Williams
    #12 Santonio Holmes
     
  12. Serphnx

    Serphnx New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    1,863
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd much rather trade the #4 and see what we can get for it. I'm thinking atleast a #12 and maybe another #20s somewhere. Maybe Denver can give us their #15 and #22.
     
  13. DonnieIsTheKing

    DonnieIsTheKing Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2005
    Messages:
    3,688
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hm... I don't think we should do it unless we're going to get Bunkley to solve our 3-4 NT woes or someone like Winston Justice. I would prefer to keep the picks and fill our many needs... but getting Justice or Bunkley would be good.
     
  14. Buttle

    Buttle New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2004
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    0
    The problem with trading up is our two biggest needs are OT and OLB. We need a starting OT and a starting OLB in the first 3 picks. Having 3 picks gives us a lot of flexibilty. The other of those three could go for the BPA who would be a luxury like Mario Williams, Mangold, a NT, a CB or even anotehr OLB. Trading down really pigeon holles are pe picks for need rather than BPA. Its a very deep draft fopr the first 50 or so players why give up one of those picks. Its also a very deep draft for OT's and CB's both positions of need. I would much rather see us if we could find a partner and move down from 4 and acquire more picsk in the top 50.
     
    #14 Buttle, Apr 16, 2006
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 20, 2005
  15. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2005
    Messages:
    8,746
    Likes Received:
    299
    I'll take that too, although I'm not that high on Leinart, QB & RB set for the next decade.
     
  16. GreenGreek

    GreenGreek Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2002
    Messages:
    2,185
    Likes Received:
    547
    There's no way we should package those two picks together to move up. I can see using a 4th round pick with one of those picks to slide up 6 or 7 spots, but we need to exit the first two rounds with 3 potential day 1 starters/contributers (2 if we take a QB at #4).

    I can see us doing this if we want to slide up from #29 to grab Watson or Wimbley or to slide up from #35 to ensure getting a RB and an OL at the end of Round 1.
     
    #16 GreenGreek, Apr 16, 2006
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2006
  17. hydro51

    hydro51 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2005
    Messages:
    4,603
    Likes Received:
    0
    the way i see it if were gonna trade picks i wanna go up and get bush.
     
  18. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    1

    Agreed, that and if we moved up near the top 10 we'd have to spend alot more on the guys. Those 2 later picks will be good players if we pick properly and I am excited to see who they are.
     
  19. Jets41815162342

    Jets41815162342 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    0
    I wouldn't have a problem trading down from #4 for a great package. In fact, I think thats the best case scenario. I'm not in love with any of the top QB's and the top 10 picks get crazy money and can be hard to sign.

    That said, If say we grab Ferguson, Williams or Cutler at #4 and are able to add Ngata, Justice or Bunkley at the 13-14 slot. Both those picks would be on some draft boards "the best at their position" and both would fill significant needs for the team.

    We would still have two 3rd rounders and an early 4th rounder to add depth at LB, WR and RB.
     
  20. Duk Dodgers

    Duk Dodgers Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2004
    Messages:
    2,204
    Likes Received:
    16
    Matt Leinart/Mario Williams and Winston Justice....hehe I like the sound of that.
     

Share This Page