Holding call on TD return

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  1. BK_Jetsfan

    BK_Jetsfan New Member

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    To me, it's less Goodell and more that mobster Perera. WTF? No one can call him or his staff out, and he has not been held accountable for officials literally ruining great games.
     
  2. slimjasi

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    Yeah, I got the exact same feeling. We had a number of untimely penalities that really epitomized what kind of game it was for us. To be fair to SF, even though the holding call on Leon's kickoff return was total crap, I also thought the holding call that too away the SF touchdown pass was a bit iffy as well. (They ended up settling for three - this was right before the kickoff to Leon in question)

    But yeah, the conspiracy theories involving the NFL fixing games all do great damage to the cherished principles of logic.
     
  3. Baumeister

    Baumeister Well-Known Member

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    That call got me twisted. If I was not at a bar I would have blown a blood vessel out in my brain. I had to keep it cool but it was the most difficult thing for me to do at that moment. You go from a very high place to a dark low spot very fast and it sucks.
     
  4. Good Call

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    Are you people blind? Go back to 2:04 and shift your attention from #44 to #49 on the right. There's your hold. You can stop crying now.
     
  5. JetsYankeesThrylos

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    I looked at that already, it wasent a hold
     
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    I can't believe someone signed up here just to defend a bad call.
     
  7. Good Call

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    Richardson had his arm wrapped around Robinson and had hold of his jersey. If that isn't holding, then there's no such thing.
     
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  9. Sanpetejets

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    First of all, are you suggesting that they called holding on that play, but on the wrong guy, and simply called holding because there were multiple instances of it?
    Are you suggesting that there were two holds on the play? So, its a good call because even though Idehigbo (44) didn't hold, Richardson (49) did, so it was ok to call holding?
    Secondly, LISTENING to Leon Washington RIGHT now on FAN, and he just said exactly what the situation is... he thought it was a questionable call, but most times they see hands on a jersey, they will call holding, and they did. It didn't cost them the game, but it was a bad call.
     
  10. abyzmul

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    So... it was a 'good call' to call the wrong guy for holding? Go away, retard.
     
  11. Good Call

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    What I'm suggesting, Sanpetepets, is that with all the bodies flying around, it's not uncommon for the referees to notice a penalty but get the jersey number wrong. If the left tackle is guilty of holding and the ref mistakenly calls the left guard, is the penalty suddenly invalidated? Is there a requirement that the official HAS to get the jersey number right every time for a penalty to stand? Hell no. Just because the official gets the jersey number wrong doesn't mean calling the penalty is wrong.

    The fact is there was blatant holding on the return and Hochuli was right to throw the flag, though some of you may have your heads too firmly lodged elsewhere to see that.
     
  12. Sanpetejets

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    Actually, yes I expect a referee, when calling a holding penalty that negates a touchdown, to get the right jersey number. Especially when a referee is calling ANY hold, on ANY play, because, in truth, by the text book definition of holding, a referee could call it on EVERY play. So, yeah. I expect them to actually say who they thought was holding.
    And secondly, Leon Washington, on the FAN, said NOTHING about them getting the wrong guy. NO ONE has said ANYTHING about them getting the number wrong. You have invented that. They called a questionable hold on Idehigbo. Period. Washington even said, just now, that he understood why they called it, ON IDEHIGBO, because his hands, while inside, showed he had some jersey, but thought it was a questionable call.
    Bottom line good call, is that the call, on NUMBER 44, was a questionable call. AGAIN. Did it cost them the game? No. Was it a big play in the game? Yes. End of fu*king discussion.
     
  13. thejetsaddict

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    And you know who he was calling the penalty on do ya?? What I know is that he called 44 for holding and there wasnt any holding there. The point they were trying to make is that you dont know if he saw someone else holding and called the wrong Jersey number or if he really thought that 44 was holding. Personally I didnt see any other hold so I have to assume he thought 44 was holding, which he wasnt. You may assume that he "really" meant to call it on a different player but got the jersey number wrong but thats not how most people will see this.

    Can you really assume since the player he called the foul on wasnt doing anything wrong that he must have got the jersey number wrong? To me its simpler to assume he made the correct jersey number call and was just being picky on a play that was game changing.
     
  14. GBA

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    He had his right arm in front of the guy, but he didn't hold. He was pushing his chest and shoulder to keep him away from Leon. When Leon passes them and the guy turns around, you can clearly see Richardson isn't holding him or his jersey. That play didn't warrant a flag either.
     
  15. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Worst officiating i've ever seen. EVER!!!
     
  16. rickjet

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    go Fu&k yourself troll...niether guy is holding....
     
  17. TurkJetFan

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    such a bull call no doubt about it
     

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