Good point. The Jets didn't lose because of one play. Teams rarely lose because of one play (this year's San Diego Chargers maybe being the exception)... It did set the tone, which sucked. In the postgame show, Adam Schein pointed out that it was a proper call by the refs, and not a reviewable call. Cotchery did not have possession of the ball--this was a judgement call made on the field by an official that, by the rules, is not reviewable.
The dumbest call IMO...I know fumble recovery is not challengable. But the Fumble was clearly recovered before Cotchery took the hit. Once he was hit, the play should have been dead, down by contact even if the hit caused the fumble. The moment defensive touched cotch or the football, the player will be assumed down by contact. How the fuck the refs let the play slide when Cotch was laying right on top of it?
He did. With Boomer and Carton at 9.30am on Monday. The explanation was that it was a judgement call by refs on the field which isn't reviewable. Perreria expanded on this and explained that this rule was brought in to avoid a situation where there is scrum of players converged on a loose ball, the argument was that a jugement would have to be made at the time. Pretty lame I know but lets move on. If this had happened late in the game and was the cause of defeat I wouldn't be so indifferent.
Yeah okay but one player touched him while he was on top of it then it popped out... from what I saw. I guess I'm dense though, thanks uberd-bag
Its hard to get really ticked off about the refs call when it was just a horrible play call executed horribly.
I think the Thomas Jones rollover TD evened that call out. It was just as crazy. The Jets were in that game well after that. They had opprtunities. I just wish Brett would have controlled himself. I felt he was forcing a few of those throws. 4th and 1 & 4th and 3 I believe? Cant remember. That first pick was an ill advised throw. We should have had both of those first downs.They didn't play their ballgame that has got them this far.
Apples and oranges bro. Those plays aren't even close. There was no replay that shows Jones' shoulder or elbow hits. The refs reviewed it over and over and the play had to stand. The Cotchery play was clear as day if the refs would have just reviewed it.
Actually, I am not clear on the rule, but Jones' elbow clearly touched the ground on one of those replays. The commentators were saying his shoulder had to hit before he was ruled down, but I had always thought it was the elbow or shoulder.
We were gonna lose that game anyway. It was just one of those days. Besides even if he had recovered that fumble the fumble killed the drive. We scored on like the first play of the next drive, so instead of 0-0 it was 7-7.
Ok, but we were looking pretty good on that first drive before the fumble. It could have been 7-0 or 3-0 if that play had not been called. If the refs made the right call the game could have been completely changed.
Elbow is down. They only showed replays at the stadium where it didn't touch. I couldn't believe it didn't get overturned by replay. Heads up play by Jones though.
it is what it is. Jones big run shifted momentum and tied the game. We couldn't take care of business after that so its all on us
It wasn't that clear.. I replayed it quite a few times and I honestly don't think his elbow hit the ground.
But, I mean, how big of loss would it have been if the refs determined that Cotchery did recover it? I don't remember what down it was, but we would have had like 30 yards to go to get a first down. So yes, the game could have been different if Mangini didn't call that play in the first place. But the refs' call seems a little inconsequential since our drive was almost assuredly dead no matter what and we got the TD back right away.
This is true, but I think any one turnover, especially one that goes for a TD, plays a big difference in any game at any time.
Dude, during the review, near the end, it was CLEAR that his elbow hit the ground. I'm not sure what you are replaying, but they showed an angle where his elbow unquestionably made contact.
Nothing that shows the correct angle, I found one that was during the review and it doesn't show it, I think it might have been after the commercial that they showed that angle.
