Whether that may be Davis, Williams, or D'Brickashaw. The whole key to this are the Saints. 99% Houston will draft Bush 99% Titans will draft Leinhart With the Saints in the middle of these two teams, that will determine who we will take. If I'm Jet personnel I'm looking at Mario Williams, then Vernon Davis at TE. I want playmakers, guys who can make a difference. Offensive linemen are needed but they are not difference makers. Besides getting a linemen that high puts too much money on a player that is not a playmaker. Offensive linemen are for schemes and they can be picked up later in my opinion. I don't have much of a problem with Cutler except how does he relate to other QBs taken within the top 5. Is he better than Roethlesberger? Is he as good as Eli? These are questions that need to be answered first. Is he really a top 5 pick. The other two QBs have question marks and pretty big question marks. Is that the reason Cutler looks so good? He needs to be compared to other QBs taken in the top 5 not the QBs in this draft.
OK,IMHO O-Linemen are difference makers. Because neither Bush nor Leinart will be able to have success without a solid or good O-Line. You can't have the best QB of all times lined up, if he gets smashed liked Carr almost ever time he takes a snap, he won't be able to do anything. And a good O-Line can make an average QB to a Pro Bowl QB, if they give him enough time and a good protection, and a bad O-Line can make a good QB seem like Ryan Leaf. And I think Cutler has as many question marks as Leinart or Young. Is he able to transfer his game to the NFL, what about his Footwork? Every single player in the Draft has question marks, but who can overcome the lack of technique or mobility or whatever the question marks are at best? I think that's the question. BTW I agree that the Jets should get the Bets Player Available
But would you spend the kind of money that is going to be required to sign him at a No. 4 pick? Could you get just as good of value later in the draft for an offensive lineman? Is he going to be a better player for the Jets than some of the others they can possibly get? Those are good questions?
BPA is the way things seem to be playing out. D'Brick is definitely not out of the question...many people have him ranked as #2 BPA right after bush. Personally, I like Williams at 4 and McNeill at 29 better.
I like whoever fits mostly into the JEts needs...the BPA at the position we NEED!!! cant draft someone in a position that is already filled...lets fill the really big holes first guys...this isnt madden where you can draft people and stick them in different positions....DBrick, Mario, Hawk, Bush, D Williams, or any OLB fits directly into this catagory
If the FO sees something in him that makes them sure he's the LT for the next 10 years I wouldn't mind if they take him at 4. I don't know if Ferguson is the next Franchise LT, because noone knows what is in 2 years. Of course there may be players like Justice who might become better players, but is that a reason to pass on a talent like Ferguson?
For me take an offensive lineman that high, he better be a dominator. I don't know if I heard that from anyone so far. However I think we can say that about Williams or Davis. I know we have Baker and I do think Baker is solid, but Davis is just as fast as some WRs That has to stretch the field. We can trade Baker for another pick IMHO.
The best player available is going to be D'Brickashaw Ferguson (if he's available.) That being said, if we draft the BPA at the #4 we might get stuck unable to fill all of our needs--for examplee, if we draft Ferguson at #4 we will get stuck without a QB and possibly a pass rusher. That's why this strategy is actually a lot riskier than it seems.
As far as I know the only other team that was interested in Baker were the Dolphins, so I don't think the Jets will find partners for that trade. And I think Baker will not creat such missmatches as Davis, but he will have a good year I think. He had a few good games last year before he got injured. And I think you can say that Fergusan was a dominating LT in College, at least as a pass protector.
Unless D'Brick is Munoz, Ogden and Boselli rolled into one, DO NOT pick him. OL are not playmakers, they make the way for playmakers. The odds on getting an OL that can do what you need later ion the draft are very good. The odds on getting a QB, DE or LB are much lower. If Leinert slips, I can see drafting him. If not, Williams (if available) and (if not) Hawk. The go OL at 29 and 35.
I disagree. I think williams at 4 is a reach and I think AJ hawk is totally worthless because he is not suited for 3-4. So I think OL at 4 wouldn't be horrible, though i am against it. There is no one really worth the 4th pick for us unless somehow Matt Leinart slips. Without that, we should trade down to like 12 to 15 range and find a team that wants Vince Young or AJ Hawk.
I would have to disagree with this. OL are the opposite of playmakers-they are the ones who keep the Julius Peppers' and Dwight Freeneys of the world from shaking up their QB. If you watched the Senior Bowl and saw how easily Brick shut down Mathias Kiwanuka from BC, you would agree that he is top level talent. Many boards have him ranked 2-4 on their overall talent board, meaning that regardless, he will be one of the best BPA if he's available. Now, I would truly like it more if Mario fell to us and we took McNiel with 29. However, if Mario's taken by the time of our pick (and Leinart isn't there), we NEED to go with Brick or trade down, and if this is the case Brick is the BPA. Like I said, OL playmakers are not truly playmakers per se; they are the ones who shut down those "difference makers" that you speak of.
I post this somewhere, everyday. Trade up and grab Leinart. He's the best player available, and to get the best you have to pay a price. I'd take Leinart over Bush. But that's just me. As far as Davis being drafted by the Jets, I hope that Kyle Brady debacle has turned the Jets away from drafting a TE first, forever. TE's can be taken later or signed as fa's. Bluechippers like Leinart are once in a lifetime. I haven't heard about a player wanting to play for the Jets as badly as I've heard Leinart allude to that in...forever. Make the deal. Move up to number two, and don't forget to send Jabraham a thank you note! Happy Passover and Easter to you all!!! Or Happy Weekend? Whatever you're celebrating, as long as you all stay happy, safe, and wise.
We won't have to move up to #2 to get Leinart. We should not be considering trading up... AT ALL!!! We have more holes than a good swiss cheese that need to be filled with FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not Stop gaps (I. E. Teague) If we do anything involving a "Trade" on draft day, it should only happen if the top 3 go as follows 1 Bush 2 Williams 3 Lienart Then we consider trading down as far as # 10 or 11, allowing us to grab Justice, and gain at a minimum 2nd rounder this year and another pick in this draft, preferably a 4th rounder and a second rounder next year. If not we take Ferguson. Young should not be an option in any way shape or form. He simply doesn't fit the offense I assume we'll be trying to run. I'm thinking we'll be running an offense similar to a NE and/or SD offense. Ellis
Every team picks the BPA. Don't they? If it's a position of need. Fortunately(unfortunately) we pick at 4 in a year we need a lot of help in a draft that "seems" to have an excess of players at a number of positions that may step right in and contribute. What comes into play is whether or not the position we pick( QB, LB, OL, whatever) constitutes the money we will have to pay for being drafted at 4.
