In my opinion all we need is an RT and we are done. LT Jones LG Kendall C Teague RG Moore RT ????? We need one more OT and we are done with work on the o-line. I don't know why people think we have to draft like crazy on o-lineman. One RT in the draft, maybe #29 or #35, the rest of our picks should not be for the o-line. And brick (and in my opinion has always) is out of the question.
Well we certainly need to make one more move as it relates to our starters, but for depth, we are still pretty weak. I don't know if Gragg is even around anymore, not a key addition even for depth purposes. I place Cavka and the guy who holds the footballs on the same level ( I seem to remember a rumor that Cavka was struggling in NFLE). We have no backup C, unless you count the starting LG, Kendall, for whom we have no backup. However, it should be noted that we're making the right moves and that this offensive line is not as offensive as it was a few weeks ago...That being said, we still have some work to do...
Well there IS a chance Katnik could backup both positions (if he lives up to apparent expectations). We'll probably grab a guard at some point in the draft. I also wouldn't be surprised if we drafted two tackles. We're extremely thin at that position and (as we all know) this draft is very deep with o-linemen.
I keep forgetting about Katnik. I don't look down on projects, except Cavka because he sucks, as we've received a pretty good bang for our buck with Jones and Moore as of late.
The starters on the line are starting to fall into place, and I agree that our missing piece is RT. But we still have a huge need for depth. Last season was ruined because of a lack of depth on the OL. I do not want another repeat of last season.
Either Marcus McNeill or Eric Winston will be there at 29. I find it very hard to believe that 4 OT's will be taken in the top 28 considering the amount of first round talent in this draft.
I also love the fact that he can play on either side. That kind of versatility could come in very handy in the coming years.
I think Whitworth is a better RT prospect than either McNeil or Winston. He has Runyan written all over him.
And (just for argument's sake) if we can't land one of those guys at 29, we can maybe grab a Bobby Carpenter or Laurence Maroney, and look to grab Ryan O'Callaghan (CAL) later on.
Yeah, we can definitely wait. I really think we need a RB and if we don't trade down from number 4, then Maroney at #29 would be a great pickup.
I think he'll be a solid RT. I certainly wouldn't be angry if we landed him later on. I just don't think he's nearly on the same level as Mcneil or Winston. Their footwork alone is superior to Whitworth's.
I think that both McNeill and Winston have alot more potential than O'Callaghan. O'Callaghan has great size, but from everything I've read, his athleticism is subpar and very questionable. Being that RT is our biggest hole at this point, I cannot see us passing up on McNeill and Winston.
I agree. We have 4 guys that are decent to good starters on the O-line. We do lack some depth, but that can be grabbed in later rounds or in FA. Based on the way the draft boards seem to be shaking out, I think #35 is the best place to grab a RT. There should be a run of RBs at the end of the 1st, which is why we should grab on at #29, before Indy and Pitt scoop up the last of the top 4 or 5. An OT of value should be available at #35 like McNeill or Winston. In the remaining rounds, we have the luxury of taking the BPA. We're being built in the Patriot mold. We have versatile, lunch pail, solid players top to bottom. This gives us the ability to go BPA and then our superstars will come in the draft.
I don't think we're set at all. Teague was only signed to a 2 year deal (I believe), obviously he is not the long term answer (he is old and significant dropoff from Mawae) and was brought in for depth. So Mangold is still a viable option to learn behind Teague for a year. Kendall is not getting younger and his successor should be brought in to start being groomed. There is no one to back-up Moore, except if you want to count Morley. Maybe Katnik and Missant are good for depth purposes, but they are projects at best, so who knows how long, if ever, until they pan out. That is not even talking about RT. As for Jones. I am not sold AT ALL. Last year he was average at best. LT is the most important position on the line and if there is an opportunity to upgrade, I feel you have to do it, so Brick is still an option. Also if Brick is brought in, it helps with depth issues since Jones can play both OT positions. The FO trying to strengthen the depth of the line IMO and I doubt they are done yet.
I agree 100%. I was saying if Mcneil and Winston were gone, I wouldn't mind picking up O'Callaghan later on. If they're available, I definately don't think they should pass either of them (Mcneil/Winston) up.
I think that Teague was a stopgap signing. But i dont think that it is to hold-the-fort for Mangold. I think that the Front Office is very high on Norm Katnik and/or Charles Missant. I think that Mangold will be an instant starter in the NFL, but they may feel that with another year or so Katnik/Missant will be ready to take over at center after learning more playing behing Teague. I have been back & forth on D'Brickashaw at #4, and now i'm thinking that we wont. I think that we should draft McNeil at #35 to play RT, and maybe O'Callaghan at #71 who could play T or G. I would like to see Andrew Whitworth with our comp if we do decide to go O-Line heavy in the draft. (instead of O'Callaghan at 71) That would put our line as: LT: Adrian Jones, Andrew Whitworth LG: Pete Kendall C: Trey Teague, Norm Katnik, Charles Missant RG: Brandon Moore RT: Marcus McNeil, Andrew Whitworth
McNeil's stenosis alone would cause me to pass him up and Winston I feel could be a nice player, but I don't like the attitude that he has supposedlyu been giving teams in interviews. I like Whitworth's strength, durability and team-first attitude - plus I like his value: he can be had later than the other two and fits our needs perfectly.
I still think we need a LT...Adrian Jones was merely ok in a very important position...possibly the second most important position on the offense. I still think we need another offseason to REALLY address the OLine.
