The jets deperately need a power back

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  1. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    We resigned OL Will Montgomery with the Graham cut. I don't think hell be cut again for Chatman as he represents our 3rd bakcup OL behind Turner and Hunter.
     
  2. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    My mistake, or ESPN's.

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast

    Said they brought Chatman back after the Graham cut. I see though that Chatman has an exemption for the week.
     
  3. penny10jet

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    What we need is tough run blocking inside the 5. If you look at TJs goalline carries, hes always hit behind the line.
     
  4. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    good running backs fight through. Even outside the 5, as soon as tj is touched he goes down.
     
  5. The GM

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    He committed to Rutgers. He was academically ineligible. He was then a top JUCO prospect being recruited by USC but was again academically ineligible. So he went to Graceland. And the point of bringing this guy up was that someone said we needed a back with Brandon Jacobs size. Messam has Jacobs' size and is faster.

    In the Canada vs. America All-Stars Game the American squad always kills the Canadian one. Messam's senior year of high school he led Canada to victory with 308 yards rushing and 2 TDs. He can play at a high level as well.

    I don't what the deal is with where he is now but I know the Giants worked him out in the off season but didn't sign him. Then again they have 4 good backs already and don't need another.

    Oh, and Mr. Electric, I see your post around in threads yet you never really contribute much of anything. Word to the wise - the world is a light brighter once you take your head out of your ass.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Size and speed don't mean he's anywhere even comparable to Jacobs in terms of being mentally capable of picking up a pro playbook, in terms of being coachable to an NFL unit, in terms of being able to adjust to NFL speed, in terms of being able to endure NFL punishment. BJ is the type of player that people are going to try to copy over a few years and fail miserably. Kind of like Antonio Gates and Randy Moss before him. They are an anomaly that is effective in the league and extremely rare.
     
  7. Jets n Boys

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    Leon is an HB, not a TE or a FB. You can't expect him to hold on to his blocking assignments for too long.

    Where in my post did I mention that Leon needs to be a featured back? You need a reading class!!!

    Leon is a good change of pace back, and thats about it. But giving him 10 carries in 4 games is useless. Better off saving a roster spot if that was the case. He needs to get about 7-8 carries atleast and be more involved in passing game too.
     
  8. Popeye's Army

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    I have never been a big TJ fan from the day he was signed. With the improved Oline he's not doing much - 250 yards in 4 games and 3.8 YPC. Those are pretty much the same stats he had last year running behind Anthony Clements and Adrien Clarke.

    I think a RBBC approach with Leon, Chatman and Caulcrick would probably be just as effective (if not more so). And much, much cheaper.

    I just can't see TJ staying on the team in 2009 unless he significantly improves his game. Especially if we could get a decent back in the next draft.
     
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  9. Mr Electric

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    1. It's easy to look at a Rivals.com prospect page. The difference between me and you is, I know what I'm talking about. Messam DID commit to Rutgers, but as a defensive end prospect. While he was at that random JUCO in North Dakota, he was interested in USC and other big time programs, but they weren't interested in him. That's why he had NO offers. He committed to Graceland because no big time schools wanted him as a RUNNING BACK. It's not that he didn't qualify, it's that no one wanted him after he attended that JUCO. Graceland wasn't a JUCO, it's a four year school. Messam is ignorant for leaving that unknown university early.

    2. Playing at a high level in high school isn't the same as playing in college and the pros. You can't even compare them.

    3. "Word to the wise - the world is a light brighter once you take your head out of your ass" READ THAT SLOWLY, and then tell me who has their head up their ass?
     
  10. The GM

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    He actually received offers from Colorado, Arizona State, Iowa State, Kansas State, and New Mexico when he was a Juco prospect. But then again, maybe everything I know about him for a fact is wrong just because you say so.

    The only thing I agree with is his mistake in leaving Graceland early especially after he couldn't finish out the season with his hurt leg. Entering one of the deepest and most talented RB drafts in years doesn't help either.
     
  11. Actually, truthfully what we need is a agile speed guy w/ alittle bit more size than Leon who can take advantage of the line's athleticism. The actual PROBLEM is that Jones is too much of a power back for this line and this offense.
     
  12. Phear

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    no, but i at least expect him to pick up the blitzer and not get lost behind the o line. reading class? what are u 6? you complain about jones so yeah, i come to the conclusion you'd rather have leon as the feature back. but im not going to argue with you. i argued with u enough in the preseason when u got all butt hurt about a comment i made regarding chad. so... have a nice day.
     
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    i guess he also noticed the lack of push our online gets. dont get me wrong they're doing a pretty good job on passing down, but out run blocking is sub par at best.
     
  14. Firemangini Ed

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    My second post was a response to this statement by ckny6 "^No one found steroids in his system. It was a diarrhetic that COULD have been used to mask steroids and was placed on the banned substance list because of that. He was using mostly to loose the weight he put on while eating himself out of the league a few years ago. Check your facts." When I said I disagreed, I meant I disagreed with the quoted statement, which I forgot to quote initially. ckny6 makes the claim that diuretics can be used for weight loss and told me to check my facts. I checked my facts and diuretics do not aid in the loss of body fat, while steroids are tremendously useful in this regard. The diuretic Chatman used was a known steroid masking agent and that is why it is banned by the NFL. If Chatman was taking diuretics for weight loss he was poorly informed. The most likely motive was to mask steroid use.
     
  15. WhiteShoeWillis

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    ^ My bad, I misread your post.
     
  16. HardHitta

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    5'8 is a little too short thats pushing it but chatmans about 225 and definately could be that guy for us but i dont think he will and where the fuck is he ?
     
  17. flgreen

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    The Jets may have the best OL coach in the NFL
     
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    I saw a lot of Chatman last year, and I think that a lot of people are going to be screaming for him to start before the year is out. He may have finally found his role with the Jets.

    Jones doesn't stink, he is a serviceable RB. He just isn't very effective at the goal line. Chatman is short quick to the hole, and has a lot of power.

    There is a reason the Jets signed him with a suspension hanging over him. Then carried him on the roster for 4 games. he is going to be a Lamont Jordan type. For years Jordan came in games in the fourth quarter, ran out the clock, with speed and power. The Jets got a taste of it in the game against the Pats. That will be Chatman's role. Coming in late in games with fresh legs and punish weary defenses. Great way to run out the clock, or get critical first downs.
     
  19. Revis Flytrap

    Revis Flytrap New Member

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    I'm with you on liking those guys who can soar at the goaline. Thats the best way to get in--even more so since replay went into effect.

    You know who might be good at this? Brad Smith. The trouble happens when you get smacked in midair. You gotta hang on to the ball--maybe he's not tough enough.
     
  20. abyzmul

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