Stop blaming the Playcalling, Weather, Refs, and whatelse anyone came up with. Sure the playcalling could have been more inspired, and our D got tired because of the weather, and some calls have been questionable and the Special Teams sucked. But we lost that game, because our Players played bad. Favre had a bad day, should have made better throws for example the shot at the endzone to stucky in the first half, if he places that ball perfect, Stuckey can get it, he didn´t and O´Neal could make a play. And the INT was just god awfull. Faneca had a bad day, he isn´t handed all that money to let DL get to Favre unblocked. Coles had a nice catch and run, but should have made some more plays/catches, definitly not the kind of performance, you expect out of your #1 Receiver and i don´t care about the lack of chemistry with the QB, the plays were there. Harris allowed extra yards and was caught in Traffic often and overall pretty invisible, we finally put a ture NT IN front of him, and he didn´t show up for the 2nd consecutive game. Our D got pushed around in the 4th by the same team, that couldn´t move the ball on the ground for 3 quaters. Jenkins is the only one, who i accept a dropping in the 4th on a hot day like sunday, everyone else should be able to keep up the play for 4 quaters, they didn´t. The Playcalling may not have been great, but I can´t remember one call, that couldn´t have been sucessfull, if executed. We just didn´t execute. This team , especially our Leaders, have to step it up, if we want to do anything this year. Period.
^ I hear you and agree with everything you said. Except, if one's hands are tied by poor play-calling, it doesn't matter how much heart or expert play one performs. As an analogy, in battle, one can have the best soldiers who are the best equipped, but if you put them in an inferior position, you will likely lose the battle. This is what our coaching staff is doing, in my opinion.
If you want the honest truth, all fan crap aside, the shock of this Jets loss for Jet fans, had less to do with the Jets than it did with the Patriots. The Reality is that even before Brady got hurt, Jet fans spent the whole off-season convincing themselves that the Patriots where old and slow on defense, the O-line that gave up the fewest sacks in the NFL last year couldn't play all of a sudden, and then the seconadry would fall apart with out Samuel. The last one is the one that shocks me the most, do Jet fans have such short memories they don't rember the Patriots putting together a scrap heap secondry of Hank Pote-(a street free Agent), Randel Gay-(a Rookie undrafted Free agent) and a converted WR Troy Brown and go on to win a Super Bowl?????? I give Jet fans all the credit in the world for supporting their team, I really do, but how in the world do so many see so little?
That?s too much credit for the Pats. The exact same talk was here last week, when Woody comitted a stupid penalty on 3rd and 2 when TJ ran for a 1st, without that Penalty, the Game would have been over. Then on 3rd and 7 within 2 minutes, Mangini called a Run to kill the last Phins TO and Punt. Afterwards, Mangini got a lot of heat for that call. And I didn?t see anyone blameing Woody. Sure Mangini could have called a Pass, but without a Player fucking up, he wouldn?t have had to make that decission.
You may think so but the reality is if you go position by position, even without Tom Brady the Patriots have the better players and a deeper roster. Jet fans don't want to belive that because they want to win now. I've said it many times and it would be just as true if I wasn't a Patriot fan, "No team in the League is as good at filling holes and replacing talent than the Patriots." Anyone that doesn't belive it, hasn't been watching football for the last 8 years.
btw, I?m starting to get a little concerned about Harris. This is not the same Player, we saw last year. I hope it?s just because he missed a lot of Preseason, and that he will get back on track shortly.
I think its perfectly acceptable to blame playcalling. Its a major concern that needs to be addresses on both sides of the ball.
I agree with the original post but I do believe coaches get paid a boatload of cash to make a difference in the game. Our coaches always seem to do more harm than good. Coles dropped two passes but still they should have gotten him into the game more. Sure, Cotchery had a call go against him which was his fault but he was probably so over anxious because we barely threw to him all game. And yes, the expensive o-line should be opening holes at the goalline but it was obvious to everyone except the coaches that it wasn't happening. So they should have tried anything else. If you have to run, why not get the speedy Leon on the outside or spread the offense out and run. I think if they at least tried a different running play instead of the same style play over and over maybe we wouldn't be as critical.
I mostly agree...except is wasn't "our D" is "their D" and it was "their play calling" not "our play calling" because none of us are members of the team. That said, however, I almost entirely agree with your post. Maybe now we can finally put an end to all of those "no respect" posts that people love to put up before anyone's played any games.
The coaches job is to put the players in the best position to suceed. Did our coaches do that, hell no. They put them in the best position to not screw up. Can't win football games that way. Did it irritate anyone else that Mangini called a time out with the play clock running down when Brett got the snap off in time? That was a wasted time out because Mangini doesn't trust his HOF QB. And why the hell are we always snapping the ball with 1 or 2 seconds on the clock? Last year it was because of Chad, is it Brett's fault this year? I hate how we keep the O-Line in their stance for so long.
^Interesting point--when I got a little older, I played center for a couple years in intramural flag football because I had lost a step or two. And I must say, I don't think it makes a difference to be in an OL stance for a while. It actually gives more time to study the defensive line and think about what you are going to do. Anyone have more professional experience to add?
I completely agree.. execution and penalties are what killed us. Some of the playcalling certainly didn't help though.
No offense, but did you actually just try to make a comparison between intramural flag football and an actual NFL game? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but come on.
^Regarding my post, I could have made the same point without mentioning my flag football experience and maybe I should have to avoid confusion. Thanks for your post and have a nice day.
