I realize there are several threads about Clemens vs Ratliff. My question is how do you fit them plus Ainge onto the roster? Clemens has the only game experience, Ratliff showing something and Ainge is a 5th rounder. I am looking for someone with practice squad rules knowledge etc. I understand you can keep a third qb on the game roster who is available only if #1 is out and can not return, at least thats how I think it works.
The team can keep 4 if they want -- but probably will not. I think the problem is that if either Ainge or Ratliff do not make the 53 man roster they will be picked up by another team. PRACTICE SQUAD After all teams have set their 53-man rosters prior to opening day and each team has passed 24-hours on acquiring the contracts of every other player waived by the other 31 NFL teams, each team may sign up to 8 players to occupy its developmental Practice Squad. These players practice with their teams but cannot dress on game days. Further, any other team may claim a team's PS player on waivers at any given time during the season -- the only stipulation to this is that the team signing the PS player must immediately add that player to its 53-man roster. A player is elibible for the PS if he: Has no prior Accrued Seasons in the NFL has one prior Accrued Season in which he was on the 45-man active roster for no more than 8 games Has been on the PS with the particular team no more than 2 prior seasons
Exactly, I think Clemens stays due to experience. What happens with the other two is going to be tough. Ratliff improves greatly from year one to two(ie check offs and comfort with getting plays off) whose to say which QB has a higher ceiling. I am in SEC country and Ainge never blew me away but I never saw him day in and out.
Ainge looked pretty terrible on Thursday...I know it was one game, but he looked like the game around him was going a million mph and he just couldn't catch up. There is no reason to have 4 QBs on the 53 man roster (now that we have someone who is basically the Lou Gherig of QBs) and don't need to really worry about having a backup for our backup. Ainge made a terrinble throw on that pick too...I was sort of surprised they drafted him anyway...Maybe the Bucs would be interested in having a 7th QB on their roster...No Favre, but they can have Ainge. If there is a spare roster spot I want to see Clowney, Wright and Stuckey stay. With Kassel getting hurt this could be a solid chance for an extra WR to stick around to play on ST. Stuckey can be a beast if he stays on the field, Wright showed some promise and Clowney has just been going bonkers since TC started....Not to mention the pair of 70 yarders he caught for TDs.
A team can keep as many QBs on the roster that they want to. You can have 53 QBs if that is what you want. There are no rules in the NFL stipulating the numbers of players at certain positions. I don't see the logic in cutting Ainge or Ratliff. Favre is a short term bridge that lets us compete for the championship while seeing what we have in the young guys on the team. Ainge is a 5th rounder, I doubt they would part with him so soon and we don't know what he can really do yet. Clemens is a 2nd rounder and has experience. Ratliff has shown HUGE flashes and there is obvious potential. Knowing Favre is here short term, is seems stupid cutting loose any of the other 3 young QBs knowing one of them is taking over eventually.
As i have posted before the chances of a free agent Qb or even a fifth rounder making an impact are so slim -- that they probably will just cut one and live with it. you can count -- over the years the FA's and Post Fifth Rounders on one hand. (Brady (6), Warner, M. Hasselback (6), Trent Green (8), Brad Johnson (9), Garcia, Frerrote (7) Actually NOW that i have looked it up there is a little more upside than i thought -- so -- to quote Emily Litella "never mind."
uhhh - all Ainge did was hand the ball off 3 times. I don't think any of our QB's threw an INT in the game. What are you talking about? They may IR Ainge because of the surgery he had on his throwing hand to keep him on the roster without using a roster spot.
I agree Ainge should go on the IR but there's no need to do that right away. While on the IR one would hope he uses that time to bulk up, work on mechanics, and get into the mental aspect of the NFL. Hopefully he can learn from the example that Stuckey set last year.
I don't think he can work on mechanics, because once a player is on IR, they are not allowed to practice with team (or at all). Isn't this something that the Patriots did that is supposedly under investigation (or swept under the rug)? However, he can bulk up and watch games.
Here's what the Jets should do. For about 8 or so years now, we've been holding a valuable roster spot for James Dearth. Never caught a pass or blocked a runner as a tight end in my memory, he just snaps. We need to train one of the 12-14 tight ends/offensive linemen on the roster to be a long snapper and get ride of that waste of valuable roster space, then we can keep all four quarterbacks (or both Wallace Wright and David Clowney). Why give up one valuable spot for a guy that just snaps?
Because he's worth the spot in the peace of mind he gives coaches in kicking/punting situations. This is proven by the fact that his tenure with the Jets spans multiple coaching and regime changes. Not an option.
Well I think it is an option with all due respect. Leon Washington is a pretty damn valuable change of pass running back, but he's pulling double duty on kickoffs too. Ben Graham punts and holds on field goals. Double duty again. James Dearth....just snaps. It's crazy to have a roster spot for just that. Given Tangini's love affair with multiple role players (Brad Smith), there's no reason why a Jason Pociak can't be trained to snap and block on run plays, catch about 20 balls a year, etc. I'd rather keep two valuable QBs on the roster than have a "one tool" player eating up roster space...
theres a youtube video of him (i thought it was from the game but I guess not now) where he was playing at the goal line and he threw this pick on a quick slant out...he threw the ball on the inside of the WR and it was just a nasty retarded pick....He looked lost over the couple of snaps I saw. He looked like he was molasses in January compared to everyone else. For someone who has had solid playing time in a very good conference like the SEC that is a throw that the QB should know better. just flat out bad.
Put Ainge on the Practice Squad. I believe players can be activated to the 53-man roster from the practice squad if necessary?
Yes they can, if Clemens or Ratliff pull a groin and need to be scratched for the day, we can dress Ainge for the backup role.
What are the rules to put a practicing player (Ainge) on IR. From what I have seen/heard he may be the odd man out. How big was his bonus? Currently, he is who I would want to put on practice squad but he could be lost.
Do you have a link to the video? Maybe it was from the green & white game? It's only his first training camp - give the kid some slack.
The New York Daily News does not believe that fifth-round pick Erik Ainge will make the Jets. If Brett Ratliff keeps up his outstanding preseason play, the only way Ainge will make it is if the Jets carry four QBs. Ainge would probably be claimed by a team if he were waived. Otherwise, he could go to the practice squad. Source: New York Daily News I'm hoping Ainge heads to the practice squad for a full year or at worst - injured reserve. Cannot measure anything by his play in the 1st exhibition game. I like his size & arm strength. But its more fear of JETS cutting him & then some other team scooping him up & ultimately turns him into something. Very excited about Brett Ratliff. He stood out amongst the 2nd/3rd teamers & that is exactly what you are supposed to do in order to take a step up to the next level. Lets face it ---- Favre is not going to be around very long.
