I don't think anyone thought he could get the job done. 6 years is more than a fair audition. See ya Chad.
The Jets would not have been 4-12 with Chad at QB this year. More like 9-7. Only problem is half the fanbase hates him.
Gee, ya think? Having a shot at Brett Favre HAD to be part of the equation, otherwise what would they have done??
while the other half considers 9-7 to be a good season... commitment to mediocrity... need I say more?
Fact is, Chad couldn't get the job done. He's simply unable to lead a credible NFL offense anymore; it's way too easy for opposing efenses to gameplan against him. It's incredibly sad if you think back to his first season as a starter, when his passes had bullet-like speed and accuracy.
Staying healthy in the NFL isnt so easy. The injuries took their toll on him. Do you think that Schable is going to play again? I dont know what his prognosis is, but any play could be your last. i remember when Chad broke his wrist on the Gnats' guy helmet in the pre-season a few years ago. There was a nasty picture on the back page showing it shattering as it happened. I wish him luck wherever he goes. He'll survive longer as a solid backup somewhere.
I'm a little confused here. Those who support this trade virtually concede the Jets are not going to the Super Bowl this year. The trade is supported because Favre makes the Jets a playoff team and makes them "relevant." However, in the three seasons that Pennington was healthy, he took the Jets to the playoffs with teams that were not expected to go to the playoffs. To base Pennington's entire career and his future on last season is ridiculous. The Jets were horrible last year and the team's failure had to do with an OL that couldn't block and a defense that was incredibly porous. The Jets' off season moves prove that to be the case. So does this trade really make the Jets that much better? I hope so. But we now have a 39 year old QB who : * is out of shape * is not football ready * does not know the offense with four weeks to go until the season starts * does not know his teammates except for Franks * was not a good QB in 2005 and 2006 I think this was more of a PR move than a football move. This was a "look at us" move to get the Jets on the back page of the paper, on talk radio, on ESPN etc. It was done to offset the Giants SB win and to sell PSLs. It's wrong to denigrate Pennington. He did everything this franchise asked him to do and did it with class.
Sure he did. But he still is no longer a legitimate starting quarterback in this league. When Jets fans remember the Pennington era, it'll be with fondness. But it was long past time for that era to end.
Chad's right. Mangini couldn't go into the season with him as the starter and so the Jets jumped on the possibility of Favre. Note that according to Tannenbaum he was working on getting Favre two weeks before camp started, so obviously by that point Mangini had already concluded that either Chad or Clemens was a real possibility to get him fired this year as they almost did last year. (And yes I know it was the offensive line but both QB's highlighted how bad the line really was in glaring red highlights.)
A large and vocal contingent here would agree with Chad's judgment here. They don't believe he can lead the team to the SB and win it. At the same time, they desparately hope that the problem has been solved with Brett. The problem has yet to be addressed on the field. That sluggish offensive line escaped yielding any sacks in the first minutes of that first quarter, which is good. Not definitive. The Browns' first team ran on us a lot better than our starters ran on their Dline. Brett has given everybody a feel-good story. But the season has yet to be discovered up there on the line of scrimmage.
Getting Brett Favre didn't make the Jets a super bowl team unless a major miracle happens. It did make them into a solid 8-8 team in my opinion, and after last year's debacle I am happy with that for now. They'll also be fun to watch.
My opinion is that this trade gives us a chance at the superbowl. If all our new guys live up to their potential, favre learns the system quickly enough, and we don't have significant injuries I feel we could win a superbowl. I don't see us as favorites, but think we have a chance. I didn't think we had that chance with Chad or Kellen. His only very good season was 2002. He's 2 rotator cuff surgeries on his throwing arm removed from that season. He's a guy that can manage a game and consistently beat the lesser teams but has trouble beating the best teams. Sure he can do it sometimes with an outstanding team effort, but he's never going to be the guy that puts a team on his shoulders and carries them. He just isn't that good. He has been working out all off season according to his brother in a report prior to him even mentioning coming back. That's most likely not the same workout program he had when preparing for football all season but it's not like he's coming in as a slob who has been sitting on the couch all off-season. What do you mean? That's my biggest concern too. Thankfully he has Bubba Franks helping him translate the jets terminology into packer terminology. I think that will help quite a bit. Steve Young was of the opinion that he would be able to learn enough of the offense in time to be effective week 1. That's as good of an endorsement as I can think of. Another concern but he seems to be a very outgoing, likable guy. He was chatting and laughing on the sideline with a few different people last night. Hopefully he can build chemistry pretty quickly. In 2005 he was awful. He was also on a team that was decimated by injuries and playing from behind all the time. He threw up a lot of stupid prayers trying to win games that his team had no business winning - and most of the time they didn't. I am of the opinion that his 2006 season was better than Pennington's. That could be debated I guess. We all know what he did in 2007. And over the past 2 years he racked up over 8000 passing yards and over 50 touchdowns (including playoffs). Only Brady, Manning, and Brees can say the same. I think a lot of it is definitely a PR move for the reasons you discussed and because of the new stadium/psl's. I also don't care what the reason behind it is because I feel that it was a move that could bring a lombardi trophy to this team. If that's what it takes to get the FO to wake the fuck up, than so be it. Is it risky? Yeah, it is. The old man has to learn a new system and build chemistry quickly. He could fail at doing that all together. He could play one game and say, shit this is not what I thought it would be and I'm going back to mississippi to relax and live it up with my millions of dollars. He could go out and get injured leaving us with Kellen Clemen at the helm. Favre has thrown the most interceptions in NFL history. He takes a lot of risks. He's also won A LOT of games and put his team in the hunt for a lombardi trophy quite a few times. He did that by taking risks. His ceiling is so high that he could bring a lombardi trophy to the Jets IMO. That's why I heart this move.
Well, Brett can certainly chunk the ball where he wants to a helluva better than Chad can, that's the truth. ...And Brett has a firm habit of not getting hurt bad enough to keep him from playing, usually -- while Chad is willing to play hurt but it doesn't always do him a lot of good. How the offense is going to change for Brett without confusing everybody else is a delicate question the CS is probably negotiating as we sit and hunt-and-peck here. There is plenty of wonderful WR talent to work with on this team for Brett, and I'm sure he saw that last night. Will that infernal offensive line just give them all the chance to climb over this steep hill? Here's hoping...
We will know more about chad by how he does on the open market. Its my guess he opens the season as a backup
