Tuesday May 13th .. Opinions and Thoughts..

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  1. MayoGate

    MayoGate Active Member

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    They do it all my friend .. They don't "F" around in Foxboro ..
     
  2. dubagedi

    dubagedi New Member

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    Wouldn't the fact that the video contains shots from different angles and is edited suggest that it probably wasn't being used during that game?
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It's not like those tapes are disposable. You can use unedited tape for the in-game stuff and then edit it later for future analysis.
     
  4. dubagedi

    dubagedi New Member

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    While anything is possible, it just doesn't seem plausible that they were doing any "in-game stuff.

    On every play multiple coaches give out signals, most of them fake and only one real. How could they have taken those signals, synced them up with the plays and be able to decide which signals were the "real ones" and then gotten the players to all know while still concentrating on football and without attracting the attention of any sideline cameras? And then done all that without any pissed off ex-players coming out and saying "yup, we were making adjustments on the fly. we knew everything that was coming."?
     
  5. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Clearly, you are not a genius. St. Bill has many more wits at his disposal than you.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You have a savant football genius on your payroll named Ernie Adams. When you are willing to shell out the type of jack that Kraft is to win championships, you find a way, mostly with teams of personnel. And BTW, let's stop trying to pretend it's really that difficult to sync up football tape with signals, you're a smart guy, you can figure it out. Instead of grasping.
     
  7. coloradojet

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    So you are saying that the Patriots did not gain any advantage during the game they were taping the signals. But they must have been gaining an advantage when they would play the team later even though by that time they could have changed the signals? Remember, the coach calls the plays. The players don't have to know anything other than to follow their assignments. Belichick would call the play that would have the best chance to counteract the play the other team was going to run. Obviously, according to you, the Patriots never gained any advantage from taping the signals. They just did it because they had nothing better to do right? I can see why the patsies fans accused Mangini last year when he got the tape confiscated during the first game of being a snitch. How could anyone dare turn Belichick and the patsies in. Mangini was the bad guy and Belichick was the greatest coach ever and the NFL was right in dealing with it so fast and destroying the tapes. Who looks better now, Mangini or Belichick? The NFL is having an interview tomorrow about the tapes because they didn't help the patriots and they don't prove anything, right? Let's see if Goodell puts it that way. Of course, anybody who believes that the patriots cheated their way to three superbowls must be an idiot.
     
  8. rillo

    rillo New Member

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    Nothing will happen. It'll get swept under the rug, too much money involved.

    NFL=WWE
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The more interesting thing is that he will also meet with Specter this afternoon in Washington. Goodell is fully aware of that and this will keep him from attempting to not ask the right questions as he knows Specter surely will. Both will hold news conferences when the meetings are done.
     
  10. Jetdic

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    Goodell disgusts me.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
  12. Bricket-head

    Bricket-head Active Member

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    Goodell just pulverized the anus of every loya NFL fan out there. Fuck Goodell, Fuck Bellichick, Fuck the Patriots, I hope they all get herpies and die.

    Can't say I'm too shocked though I expected this all along.
     
  13. Pam

    Pam TGG.com Friendliest Poster Fourpeat!!

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    Walsh meets with Goodell, set to talk with Specter
    By RACHEL COHEN,Associated Press
    Posted: 2008-05-13 13:36:39
    http://news.aol.com/story/_a/walsh-meets-with-goodell-set-to-talk/n20080513133609990080

    NEW YORK (AP) - NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said he learned nothing new about the Spygate scandal after meeting with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh for nearly 3 1/2 hours Tuesday.

    The NFL released the tapes Walsh provided, and they didn't show any previously undisclosed rules violations. The clips cut between shots of opposing coaches sending in signals and the play that followed.

    "The fundamental information that Matt provided was consistent with what we disciplined the Patriots for last fall," Goodell said at a news conference.

    The most scandalous part of the tapes shown had nothing to do with stealing signals - it was several minutes of close-ups of San Diego Chargers cheerleaders performing during a 2002 game.

    Walsh did not comment after leaving the NFL offices to travel to Washington to meet with Sen. Arlen Specter. Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, has been critical of the NFL's handling of the investigation.

    Walsh had no knowledge of anybody with the Patriots taping the Rams' final walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl, Goodell said. The Boston Herald reported in February that an unidentified Patriots employee illegally taped the walkthrough before New England, a two-touchdown underdog, upset St. Louis 20-17.

    Patriots spokesman Stacey James said the team was preparing a statement.

    The investigation began after the NFL confiscated tapes from a Patriots employee who recorded the New York Jets' defensive signals from the sideline during the 2007 opener. New England coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000, while the team was fined $250,000 and forced to forfeit its 2008 first-round draft choice.
     
  14. MayoGate

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    What is it that you guys want? A public lynching? Where else do you want him to turn?
     
  15. phubbadaman

    phubbadaman Well-Known Member

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    I expected either nothing at all or something huge and we got nothing at all.

    I will say that Goodell seemed nervous talking in front of the media, but I'm not reading into that, just noticed it.

    I do still think the Patriots cheated, but it looks like nothing will be done about it, we'll see what happens after Specter talks with Walsh.
     
  16. Phlyphrytz

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    Jets fans will pretend to hate the Pats because of their past glory, but know full well that if the Jets did the same thing with Bellicheck as their coach, they'd all still sleep like babies. Cmon... 3 SB's in a decade? So what, everyone cheats... we just got caught!!??
     
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  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I want an investigation. I want the NFL to do something other than protect it's own image.
     
  18. rmagedon

    rmagedon Active Member

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    I saw the same thing. I mean, Goodell has always seemed to be the calm, cool and collected type when confronting the media, but today, his hair was all over the place, he appeared nervous in his voice, and he looked like he'd been sweating bullets. Chances are...something is up, but all of this will soon be forgotten.
     
  19. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    they are asking on the NFL Network why the Rams didn't say anything when they spotted Walsh taping.

    it seems they're deflecting the blame somewhat onto the Rams. typical....
     
  20. rillo

    rillo New Member

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    I would love for this to happen also, but its not. People will forget, nobody will boycott. Pats fans wanna make this out as a Jets/Pats rivalry (jealousy), but I know a lot of other NFL fans that feel hosed by this, is not just Jets fans.
     

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