Confirming what we know http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/sports/football/08nfl.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
That's it ? That's all the hub-bub ? Well, at least Capers won't be coaching those cheating Pats this year ..
I hear that .. But this was the injection that would send BB to the cleaners... It was all the same shit we already knew.. Wake me up when some new stuff comes out ..
so um, why did I think this was going to happen on the 13th? Regardless more cuts to the monster, eventually the monster has to die. So what is the point of the meeting on the 13th? it can't be to bring in more evidence, otherwise why send in some tapes and bring more to the meeting? Also I wouldn't be surprised if this brings about more penalties, not a lot but some. They no longer have just the illegal acts during the regular season, but now they have information the Pats cheated in the playoffs, and not only that, they cheated to get into the superbowl. Which makes it plausible at least in my mind, that they cheated in the Superbowl even if there isn't any evidence....
Not much of a smoking gun, really. On the other hand, this pretty clearly establishes the Pats had in place a long standing and elaborate scheme for cheating, which St. Bill can't wash his hands of very credibly. And, more importantly, it neatly coincided with their recent success. And of course, last season aside, they never really seemed all that dominant on the field even with all the success. Perhaps now we know why.
Sadly nothing will happen behind this. Bellicheat has been cheating for almost 8 years but the NFL is in bed with the Pats and will do nothing else, feeling that the fine and #1 pick already levied against them will be enough. Just more tapes for the NFL to destroy without showing or telling anyone. Its a complete joke.
Wow, so no walk-through now? Now there's evidence of taping offensive signals and taping of AFC championship games? Pats are frauds! Its beyond me why Belicheat still has a job...this is such BS.
This is the death knell for this scandal.... Goodell is quietly lifting up the corner of the carpet, and has the broom poised for the final push.....
So Goodell would penalize them more if caught with walkthrough for SB but wont penalize more for stealing signals in an AFC championship game??? This guy just doesnt want to upset the status quo any more amongst the owners it seems with this. To bad this isnt like the NCAA and take away somethin like 10 mil off there salary cap or suspend them from the playoffs instead of the college taking away scholarships and bowl games.
Other coaches have admitted to doing it. Former coaches have said, "everybody does it". The Steelers have said it is a non-issue. There's a really good chance that a lot of teams, if not all have done something along the same lines and ALL owners will be happy when it goes away.
Walsh sends NFL 8 tapes that don't include Rams' walkthrough Associated Press Posted: 2008-05-07 23:37:12 http://news.aol.com/story/_a/walsh-sends-nfl-8-tapes-that-dont/n20080507233709990024 NEW YORK (AP) - Former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh sent the NFL eight videotapes that show New England violated league rules by recording opposing coaches' playcalling signals. The tapes include signals by coaches of five opponents in six games from 2000-02, but don't include video from the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl. The NFL said it received a letter from Michael Levy, the lawyer for Walsh, detailing the tapes that were scheduled to arrive Thursday at the league's New York offices. The tapes sent to the NFL show the Patriots recorded signals in regular-season games against Miami, Buffalo, Cleveland and San Diego, and against Pittsburgh in the 2002 AFC championship game. "This is consistent with what the Patriots had admitted they had been doing, consistent with what we already knew," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press. The New York Times first reported the story on its Web site Wednesday night. Walsh, who worked for New England from 1997 to 2003, agreed to turn over the tapes and other evidence by Thursday. He's scheduled to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell next Tuesday about New England's taping of opposing teams. "We're not going to comment," said Stacey James, the Patriots' vice president for media relations. He added he expected the team will wait to issue a statement until after Walsh meets with Goodell. Walsh's name first surfaced just before this year's Super Bowl, nearly five months after the Patriots were sanctioned for illegally taping the New York Jets in the season opener - a $500,000 fine for coach Bill Belichick, a $250,000 fine for the organization, and the loss of a first-round draft pick. At that time, the Boston Herald also reported an unnamed Patriots employee illegally taped the Rams' final walkthrough before the 2002 title game, when New England, a two-touchdown underdog, upset St. Louis 20-17. Goodell previously has said he was fully prepared to crack down again on the Patriots if his meeting with Walsh uncovered a tape made of the Rams' walkthrough practice. "Mr. Walsh has never claimed to have a tape of the walkthrough," Levy told The New York Times. "Mr. Walsh has never been the source of any of the media speculation about such a tape. Mr. Walsh was not the source for the Feb. 2 Boston Herald article." After more than two months of negotiations, lawyers for the league and Walsh finally reached an agreement on April 23 on terms that will allow him to talk with Goodell. They include an agreement by the Patriots not to sue Walsh and to pay his legal expenses and his airfare to New York from Hawaii, where he is now a golf pro.
If you look at it like a holding penalty. There are many that the refs miss and of course don't get penalized. If you get caught you get penalized. No matter how much Pat fans say it didn't figure in the outcome, it also doesn't even matter that opposing coaches and owners say it didn't factor in to the games it is still cheating to gain an unfair competitive advantage and does taint ALL their accomplishments. Lets look at Belichicks record as a head coach before. He was 36-44 as HC of the Browns. Fast forward a few years, he starts taping and his record as a HC since then is 106-41. Did he only become a genius after moving to NE or was there other factors involved? I would say based on the fact that it is shown that he started taping signals in 2000 and his record since then has done a 360 from losing to winning the tapes most certainly did help him win and thus ALL their wins are suspect.
